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Could you please unsubscribe me. I tried to do it online but I don't have a= clue what my password isThank you Kind reagrds Tracy=20 > From: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org > Subject: freebsd-questions Digest=2C Vol 531=2C Issue 10 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 22:55:24 +0000 >=20 > Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > or=2C via email=2C send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org >=20 > When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 2. ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 3. Re: ipfw question .... (Matthew Seaman) > 4. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa) > 5. Re: install xorg question .... (Matthew Seaman) > 6. Re: ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 7. Re: install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 8. ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 9. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon) > 10. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Victor Sudakov) > 11. Re: ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 12. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon) > 13. X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 14. Re: cpio and hard links (Victor Sudakov) > 15. pkg schema upgrade? (Patrick) > 16. Re: pkg schema upgrade? (Matthew Seaman) > 17. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) > 18. pkg-register question (doug@safeport.com) > 19. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 20. tcsh login question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 21. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa) > 22. Re: pkg-register question (Matthew Seaman) > 23. Re: tcsh login question .... (kpneal@pobox.com) > 24. pkg upgrade failed again (Jamie Griffin) > 25. watchdog timeout msk0 (Martin Smith) > 26. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) > 27. Re: pkg-register question (doug) > 28. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Andrew Berg) > 29. seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again > (Jamie Griffin) > 30. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 31. BIOS monitoring goodies .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 32. Re: TCP/IP on the way out? (Perry Hutchison) > 33. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:02:19 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by=20 > XFCE. I get the following: >=20 >=20 > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >=20 > New packages to be INSTALLED: > xorg: 7.7 > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > . > . > . > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 >=20 > The process will require 98 MB more space > 37 MB to be downloaded >=20 > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % >=20 >=20 > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around=20 > this :-/ ? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:15:35 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? >=20 >=20 > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 15:14:56 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62CE0.6040807@FreeBSD.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 15:15=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? > >=20 > >=20 > > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 >=20 > Because otherwise someone could DoS you by causing ipfw to fill up a > partition with log messages simply by sending a stream of packets at you > over the network. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey >=20 >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20= 140809/0ab725ef/attachment-0001.sig> >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 4 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:15:10 -0400 > From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>=2C "FreeBSD Questions > !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62CEE.7060202@sentex.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > > > > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? >=20 > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be=20 > overwhelmed with hits=2C as in the case for example of a DoS. You can=20 > change it as discussed in the man pages >=20 >=20 > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C packets will be logged to=20 > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount=20 > packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the=20 > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a value o= f=20 > 0 means unlimited logging. >=20 > Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the=20 > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetlog= =20 > command. >=20 > ---Mike >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa=2C tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications=2C mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge=2C Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 5 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 15:26:25 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E62F91.8020100@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 15:02=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by > > XFCE. I get the following: >=20 > > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > > Updating repository catalogue > > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > > All repositories are up-to-date > > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): > >=20 > > New packages to be INSTALLED: > > xorg: 7.7 > > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > > . > > . > > . > > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 > >=20 > > The process will require 98 MB more space > > 37 MB to be downloaded > >=20 > > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % > >=20 > >=20 > > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around > > this :-/ ? >=20 > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: >=20 > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f >=20 > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. >=20 > Oh -- depending on your hardware=2C you might want to use the new-xorg > repository. See >=20 > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. >=20 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20= 140809/c4c23b72/attachment-0001.sig> >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 6 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:39:15 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E63293.3090901@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 09:15=2C Mike Tancsa wrote: > > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> > >> Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? > > > > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be=20 > > overwhelmed with hits=2C as in the case for example of a DoS. You can= =20 > > change it as discussed in the man pages > > > > > > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C packets will be logged to=20 > > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount=20 > > packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the=20 > > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a value= =20 > > of 0 means unlimited logging. > > > > Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the= =20 > > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetlo= g=20 > > command. > > > > ---Mike > > > > >=20 >=20 > Hmmmm .... OK=2C sounds good. I would like a bit more granularity on=20 > deciding what to log & what to not log. For example=2C 99% of the time=2C= I=20 > would drop denials from my LAN=2C except when I am trying to figure out=20 > why I can't get NFS working=2C for example. I'd like to be able to choose= =20 > that when I (re)start ipfw. I am using the default rc.firewall located=20 > in /etc=2C BTW. I might like to specify denial-logging by protocol *and*= =20 > port #=2C rather than just por > t # .... Is there a way to implement any of=20 > this ? Thanks & TIA .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 7 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:47:55 -0500 > Fro > m: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E6349B.7070900@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 09:26=2C Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 09/08/2014 15:02=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by > >> XFCE. I get the following: > >> [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > >> Updating repository catalogue > >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > >> All repositories are up-to-date > >> The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): > >> > >> New packages to be INSTALLED: > >> xorg: 7.7 > >> xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 > >> > >> The process will require 98 MB more space > >> 37 MB to be downloaded > >> > >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > >> Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > >> pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > >> [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % > >> > >> > >> I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around > >> this :-/ ? > > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 > > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: > > > > # pkg clean -a > > # pkg update -f > > > > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force > > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. > > > > Oh -- depending on your hardware=2C you might want to use the new-xorg > > repository. See > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde > > > > Cheers=2C > > > > Mat > thew > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks=2C worked like a champ !!!!! >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 8 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: ps question .... > Message-ID: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps=20 > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 9 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 17:01:50 +0200 > From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps=20 > > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... >=20 > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg=2C Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe=2C Mousa=2C ... >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 10 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 > From: Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 > Message-ID: <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Andrew Berg wrote: > > The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > > just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > > nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > > svn and then build and install it. >=20 > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches > after upgrading a system from source? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov=2C VAS4-RIPE=2C VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 11 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <53E63BB0.2080700@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 10:01=2C Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks=2C I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign=20 > :-/ .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 12 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 17:22:39 +0200 > From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <20140809172239.ae877c88.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/09/14 10:01=2C Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote= : > > >> > > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks=2C I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign= =20 > > :-/ .... >=20 > As far as I can tell=2C there is no difference in behaviour. > The commands >=20 > % ps aux >=20 > and >=20 > % ps -aux >=20 > as well as >=20 > % ps -a -u -x >=20 > produce the same output. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg=2C Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe=2C Mousa=2C ... >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 13 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:44:03 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" >=20 > .... I am following the instructions at > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= h > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C bit > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar > Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it is > pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting pag= e > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > -- >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > References >=20 > 1. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= html >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 14 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 > From: Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: cpio and hard links > Message-ID: <20140809161745.GB65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > Given a directory "tmp" which contains two files=2C "foo" and "bar"=2C > > both of which are merely hard links to one another=2C the following > > command will=2C apparently=2C produce an archive of the directory in > > question which contains only a single instance of the actual file > > contents: > >=20 > > tar cvf tmp.tar tmp > >=20 > > The resulting tmp.tar file can later be unpacked=2C using tar=2C result= ing > > in a directory structure which exactly mirrors the original "tmp" > > directory=2C including preservation of the hard link(s). > >=20 > > I note however that=2C given the same original directory structure=2C t= he > > following command generates an archive file containing two complete > > instances of the file data: > >=20 > > find tmp -depth -print | cpio -ovm > tmp.cpio > >=20 > > For the the cpio program that is part of FreeBSD=2C is there any option > > which would have the effect of causing cpio to only archive a single > > instance of the data associated with each unique inode... as tar appare= ntly > > does=2C by default? >=20 > Try 'cpio -H ustar'. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov=2C VAS4-RIPE=2C VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 15 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 > From: Patrick <gibblertron@gmail.com> > To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: pkg schema upgrade? > Message-ID: > <CA+dWbmYd1=3D6pu8-BGhSYg66thLm4HNai6t=3DgpJRDGv16B8nC2A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUTF-8 >=20 > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: >=20 >=20 > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened > readonly >=20 > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version >=20 >=20 > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happ > en=2C it > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that tal= ks > about this=2C and my Google-fu is failing me. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 16 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 17:42:54 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg schema upgrade? > Message-ID: <53E64F8E.7080401@FreeBSD.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 17:21=2C Patrick wrote: > > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since i= t > > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: > >=20 > >=20 > > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is open= ed > > readonly > >=20 > > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version > >=20 > >=20 > > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen=2C = it > > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that t= alks > > about this=2C and my Google-fu is failing me. >=20 > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f >=20 > should restore sanity. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey >=20 >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20= 140809/57f76afc/attachment-0001.sig> >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Messa > ge: 17 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug <doug@fledge.watson.org> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091258160.96880@fledge.watson.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > .... I am following the instructions at > > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config= .h > > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everythin= g > > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C bi= t > > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jagua= r > > Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > > click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it i= s > > pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting pa= ge > > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > > -- > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know= a lot=20 > about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 maili= ng list=20 > or just search the archives of that list. >=20 > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 18 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug@safeport.com > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: pkg-register question > Message-ID: > <alpine.BSF.2.00.1408091325180.41601@bucksport.safeport.com> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B format=3Dflowed=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems (vmwa= re is=20 > cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to update jails. So= I am=20 > fuzzy on things I did not actually document along the way. >=20 > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg=2C subversion=2C and ezjail. = All were=20 > registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had build i= t so I=20 > must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes' to make.conf. >=20 > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and google= I=20 > decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. >=20 > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no su= ch=20 > syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full name? >=20 > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 19 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 13:22:40 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > >> .... I am following the instructions at > >> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= h > >> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everythi= ng > >> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C b= it > >> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jagu= ar > >> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]= " > >> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > >> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it = is > >> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting p= age > >> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >> --=20 > > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you=20 > > know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to= =20 > > the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > > > > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I OK=20 > for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty= =20 > good=2C but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C backgroun= d on=20 > desktop looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I jus= t=20 > looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s)=20 > .... what now :-/ .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 20 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: tcsh login question .... > Message-ID: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop=2C or login w/= =20 > a console login=2C everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then=20 > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way)=2C the /ect/csh.login= =20 > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases=2C prompt=20 > setting=2C & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly say= s=20 > it will be sourced at login=2C what gives ? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 21 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 14:26:26 -0400 > From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>=2C "FreeBSD Questions > !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E667D2.7070601@sentex.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 8/9/2014 10:39 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> > >> If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C p > ackets will be logged to > >> syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount > >> packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the > >> sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a valu= e > >> of 0 means unlimited logging. > >> > >> Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the > >> logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetl= og > >> command. > >> > >> ---Mike > >> > >> > > > > > > port #=2C rather than just port # .... Is there a way to implement any = of > > this ? Thanks & TIA .... >=20 >=20 > It there in the man pages of ipfw how to do it on a per rule basis.=20 > logamount can be set on a per rule basis. >=20 > ---Mike >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa=2C tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications=2C mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge=2C Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 22 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 19:39:32 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg-register question > Message-ID: <53E66AE4.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 18:39=2C doug@safeport.com wrote: > > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems > > (vmware is cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to > > update jails. So I am fuzzy on things I did not actually document along > > the way. > >=20 > > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg=2C subversion=2C and ezjail= . All > > were registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had > > build it so I must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes' to > > make.conf. > >=20 > > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and > > google I decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. > > > > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no > > such syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full > > name? >=20 > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page > is talking about. >=20 > Before staging=2C this was the way the ports operated. Now=2C with stagi= ng=2C > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging > area=2C and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long ter= m > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future > probably should not be discounted. >=20 > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact=2C the pkg2ng > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. >=20 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20= 140809/3923f551/attachment-0001.sig> >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 23 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 15:43:02 -0400 > From: kpneal@pobox.com > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: tcsh login question .... > Message-ID: <20140809194302.GA62677@neutralgood.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > On Sat=2C Aug 09=2C 2014 at 01:27:12PM -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III w= rote: > >=20 > >=20 > > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop=2C or login = w/=20 > > a console login=2C everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then=20 > > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way)=2C the /ect/csh.log= in=20 > > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases=2C prompt=20 > > setting=2C & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly s= ays=20 > > it will be sourced at login=2C what gives ? >=20 > That file doesn't get sourced because tcsh is not run as a "login shell" > when run from whatever that gets run by xdm. This is correct since loggin= g > into an X11 session is not the same as logging into a shell session. >=20 > It sounds like you need to move a good chunk of your /etc/csh.login file > into the /etc/csh.cshrc file instead. > --=20 > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ >=20 > "Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \=20 > the presense of a working computer." -- a DEC Jensen paper >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 24 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 20:48:31 +0100 > From: Jamie Griffin <griffin8j@gmail.com> > To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: pkg upgrade failed again > Message-ID: <53E67B0F.2010500@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this=20 > happens: >=20 > Checking for upgrades: 100% > Assertion failed: (var =3D=3D elt->var)=2C function pkg_solve_sat_problem= =2C=20 > file pkg_solve.c=2C line 508. > Child process pid=3D5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap >=20 > When with a problematic package qt4-qtestlib conflicting with=20 > qt4-testlib=2C pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first=2C I thought the solver= =20 > was supposed to sort things like this? >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 25 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 20:55:36 +0100 > From: Martin Smith <lists@rakupottery.org.uk> > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: watchdog timeout msk0 > Message-ID: <53E67CB8.5050000@rakupottery.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > I am just installing 10.0 onto a Vaio VGN-SR41N and am getting watchdog=20 > timeout on the built in msk0=2C the system does not seem to recognise an= =20 > expresscard startech EC1000S which has a realtek chip. > I remember the watchdog timeout from years ago on > older systems=2C though=20 > not on this machine=2C can someone remind me and point me in the right=20 > direction=2C cheers >=20 > --=20 > Martin >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 26 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug <doug@fledge.watson.org> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091628040.96880@fledge.watson.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config= .h > >>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everyth= ing > >>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C = bit > >>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jag= uar > >>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series= ]" > >>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the scree= n=2C > >>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it= is > >>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting = page > >>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>> --=20 > >> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you k= now a=20 > >> lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X1= 1=20 > >> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>=20 > >> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > > > > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I OK= for=20 > > XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty go= od=2C but=20 > > the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C background on deskt= op looks a=20 > > bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked throu= gh=20 > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now = :-/=20 > > .... > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing P= Cs=20 > whose video card are not supported. However flickering and worse in my=20 > experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You w= ill not=20 > get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it may mean= =20 > hardware issues. If you have a windows partition=2C it is good to test th= e=20 > hardware. >=20 > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 27 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:46:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug <doug@fledge.watson.org> > To: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg-register question > Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091638580.96880@fledge.watson.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C Matthew Seaman wrote: > [cut] > > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a > > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has > > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the > > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files int= o > > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page > > is talking about. > > > > Before staging=2C this was the way the ports operated. Now=2C with sta= ging=2C > > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging > > area=2C and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long t= erm > > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future > > probably should not be discounted. >=20 > Thank you that was exactly the information I was seeking >=20 > > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact=2C the pkg2ng > > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. >=20 > Excellent - thanks again >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 28 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0500 > From: Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> > To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 > Message-ID: <53E68BD0.5090209@my.hennepintech.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"UTF-8" >=20 > On 2014.08.09 10:08=2C Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Andrew Berg wrote: > >> The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > >> just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > >> nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > >> svn and then build and install it. > >=20 > > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patch= es > > after upgrading a system from source? > Since you have your own changes=2C no. IIRC=2C there are instructions in = the > announcements for building only what has changed so that you do not need = to > rebuild the entire world and kernel. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 29 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 22:12:47 +0100 > From: Jamie Griffin <griffin8j@gmail.com> > To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again > Message-ID: <53E68ECF.3070006@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 > On 09/08/2014 20:48=2C Jamie Griffin wrote: > > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this=20 > > happens: > > > > Checking for upgrades: 100% > > Assertion failed: (var =3D=3D elt->var)=2C function pkg_solve_sat_probl= em=2C=20 > > file pkg_solve.c=2C line 508. > > Child process pid=3D5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > > > When with a problematic package qt4-q > testlib conflicting with=20 > > qt4-testlib=2C pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first=2C I thought the solv= er=20 > > was supposed to sort things like this? > Once again pkg has completely f**ked up my packages and i'll have to=20 > remove everything and start over. That's the second time in as many=20 > months. Why are these things released when they cause so many problems=20 > for people. I actually dread upgrading FreeBSD now because I know it's=20 > going to involve stress. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 30 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 16:32:26 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E6936A.900@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 15:37=2C doug wrote: > > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > >> On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >>> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>> > >>>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-confi= g.h=20 > >>>> > >>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through=20 > >>>> everything > >>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C= bit > >>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD=20 > >>>> Jaguar > >>>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3=20 > >>>> Series]" > >>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the=20 > >>>> screen=2C > >>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although i= t is > >>>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting= =20 > >>>> page > >>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>>> --=20 > >>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you= =20 > >>> know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe=20 > >>> to the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>> > >>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > >> > >> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I O= K=20 > >> for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly=20 > >> pretty good=2C but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C= =20 > >> background on desktop looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular = &=20 > >> flickery. I just looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no*=20 > >> errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ .... > > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at=20 > > choosing PCs whose video card are not supported. However flickering=20 > > and worse in my experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the= =20 > > vesa driver? You will not get the full use of the card but if that=20 > > driver does not work it may mean hardware issues. If you have a=20 > > windows partition=2C it is good to test the hardware. > > > > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to=20 > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 >=20 > It's already on the vesa driver=2C & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU= =20 > .... No sweat=2C I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new=20 > hardware .... When you say X11 list=2C do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list= =2C=20 > or X.org ? Thanks :-) .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 31 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: BIOS monitoring goodies .... > Message-ID: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... Linux has myriad tools=2C utilities=2C apps=2C etc. (hddtemp=2C lmse= nsors=2C=20 > jwclock=2C etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info= =20 > .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD=2C could someone point me= =20 > to them :-) ? TIA .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 32 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 14:38:11 -0700 > From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) > To: odhiambo@gmail.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? > Message-ID: <53e694c3.Z9pgoYYlNshz0fcD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream=2C but seems tr= ue. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-th= e-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. >=20 > I haven't read the article -- the page crashed Firefox -- but the > idea of anything replacing TCP/IP reminds me of: >=20 > They who do not understand TCP are doomed to reinvent it=2C poorly. >=20 > I think that quote may have originated with Henry Spencer. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 33 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug <doug@fledge.watson.org> > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1408091850330.96880@fledge.watson.org> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > On 08/09/14 15:37=2C doug wrote: > >> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>=20 > >>> On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >>>> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-conf= ig.h > >>>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through every= thing > >>>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail= =2C bit > >>>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD J= aguar > >>>>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU wit= h > >>>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Seri= es]" > >>>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the scr= een=2C > >>>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>>>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although = it is > >>>>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshootin= g page > >>>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>>>> --=20 > >>>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you= know=20 > >>>> a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to th= e X11=20 > >>>> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>>>=20 > >>>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > >>>=20 > >>> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I = OK for=20 > >>> XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty = good=2C=20 > >>> but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C background on= desktop=20 > >>> looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I just lo= oked=20 > >>> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) ....= what=20 > >>> now :-/ .... > >> Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosin= g PCs=20 > >> whose video card are not supported. However flickering and w > orse in my=20 > >> experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? Yo= u=20 > >> will not get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work= it=20 > >> may mean hardware issues. If you have a windows partition=2C it is goo= d to=20 > >> test the hardware. > >>=20 > >> I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( > >>=20 > > > > It's already on the vesa driver=2C & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CP= U ....=20 > > No sweat=2C I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new hardware = ....=20 > > When you say X11 list=2C do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list=2C or X.org ?= Thanks=20 > > :-) .... > > > "FreeBSD X11 mailing list" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> is the one I follow.= I am=20 > hoping for a solution to the console switching issue. Either list is prob= ably=20 > okay for this issue. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Subject: Digest Footer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > End of freebsd-questions Digest=2C Vol 531=2C Issue 10 > ************************************************** =
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