Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:34:02 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>, Andy Young <ayoung@mosaicarchive.com>, Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? Message-ID: <B89F55FB-7E48-494D-9BA9-F10AE0438D00@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1205010703220.5909@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <092518C9B5214244805F7D2022A4F663@multiplay.co.uk> <1168656383.74335.1335567528359.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <CAOgwaMseWCRmsEE1QwyqsZTjU8p-=k1ftuJLktv3O9oZR_6TjA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1204291930120.1760@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <CADLo83_1p%2BDeG3pTr4BuoNbxr_g0WdDVDvg%2BBYx6PxmKS9px2Q@mail.gmail.com> <5E0882E0-405F-46AC-9290-8A195FECD2F4@gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1204300715230.30254@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <74720B93-61ED-4CA4-88C1-173356742F3A@gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1205010703220.5909@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Advertising that it exists and is used is more important than = saying "x sucks, use y instead". This is the tone I was getting from the = previous response and this is what I discourage as well as others on the = list. >=20 > It was just an example. I don't use FreeBSD because Oracle Solaris = sucks but because it works best for me. No other unix not only is as = fast but allows so easy tuning like compiling own kernel and configuring = things. >=20 > What do you prefer - few files in /etc, like rc.conf to configure = almost everything in base system (+starting installed ports), or = thousands of files in modern "linux distro" or oracle solaris? >=20 > Sorry but when i HAD to deal with linux i just deleted most of /etc = and write my own /etc/rc. Joe user, students, etc really don't care about the underlying system as = long as the GUIs obscure this. OSX is a prime example of this (the OSX = CLI has sucked for a long time). Only sysadmin and CLI power users care = how things like this are organized. I think this is the usability boat = that's been missed for a while on *nix. > Solaris 11 was just an example of overadvertised things that are just = useless. Linux is "trendy" and quality is second thing, but it had to = be everywhere including things that should not have OS at all, like VoIP = gateway. Sun isn't Oracle, so I don't expect them to put forth a decent general = purpose OS offering. As far as Linux is concerned, in some ways it's = good Linux has become a niche OS, and in some ways it's bad, but you = can't take back the fact that it is what it is right now. Thanks, -Garrett=
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