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From: "Nikolas Britton" <nikolas.britton@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Large File System?
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On 8/8/06, Martin Hepworth <maxsec@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/8/06, Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > The single most important thing missing for me in FreeBSD is a journalling
> > file system as I would use it on every box.
> >
> > <snip>
>
>
>
> Softupdates are the FreeBSD equivalent. From my point of view they perform
> better than a traditional journaling FS (do a google search for the original
> usenix papers on these).
>
> I also find they speed up I/O quite alot, esp for fast changing filesystems
> like mail spools.
>

You've never had to fsck a 2TB+ array, have you?... This is why we
DEMAND journaling UFS2..... or ZFS.


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