From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 17 21:22:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D004116A46E for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA51C13C468 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.05) with ESMTP id l5HLM6NG031387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:22:06 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-24-10-12-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.10.12.194]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l5HLM5Mw020786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:22:05 -0700 Message-ID: <4675A5FD.7010400@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:22:05 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikola Lecic References: <20070617175349.9debf85a.coolzone@it.dk> <46755FE4.3000204@u.washington.edu> <200706172001.l5HK17sU030505@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu> <20070617201128.GC5036@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200706172058.l5HKwYMs000717@smtpclu-4.eunet.yu> In-Reply-To: <200706172058.l5HKwYMs000717@smtpclu-4.eunet.yu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.6.17.140333 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HIGHBITS 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Jerry McAllister , Rico Secada , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:37 -0000 Nikola Lecic wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:11:28 -0400 > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:01:16PM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote: >> >> >>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:00 -0700 >>> Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Rico Secada wrote: >>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. >>>>> I set this drive to slave and installed it into the box in >>>>> order to dualboot. >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> 1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off >>>> of them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long >>>> time >>>> >>> What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I suppose). >>> I ask this because ... >>> Now that I think about it I don't think that there's anything wrong as long as the boot order doesn't change. This is simple to modify with SATA/SCSI, but PATA is statically set based on the jumper pins. Once you change the boot order, things change in the OS in terms of how the registry mapped entries, programs found their way around, etc, and it breaks everything. >>>> 3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk. >>>> >>> ... "windows" can normally boot from slave position without >>> bootloader, (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and >>> ntldr/ntdetect.com, but AFAIK only if booting is impossible even >>> when ad1 (D) is selected in BIOS as the first boot choice). >>> Yes. Drive lettering gets tricky though, based on what partitions were active when stuff was installed, etc, because Nikola's first NTFS/FAT formatted partition could have been C:, not D:, etc. *sighs and shakes head at bad partitioner in 2k/xp/2k3 installer*. >> HE is trying to dual boot the machine. He needs something on that >> second disk that the MBR on the first disk can transfer control to. >> That something is the MBR on the second disk. That's the way it >> works. >> > > Yes :) > > I said that it's _possible_ to keep the second disk stay untouched (as > it remained after xp installation). I replied because (1)+(3) of > Garrett's e-mail implied (maybe, that's why I asked him a question) > that xp cannot start from the second disk without _separate_ bootloader > installed _there_ from the outside, which is not true. > > My statement doesn't say anything about contents of the first disk and > doesn't negate any of the options you proposed. > > I did add two things: > > (a) a proposition to check ad1 separately -- doesn't hurt; > > (b) a possible help if xp cannot orientate itself. > > Nikola Lečić > The reasoning used in this document is the basis for my previous statement: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/112019 So as long as the boot ordering or disk ordering of the primary (Windows) disk doesn't change, things should be groovy. -Garrett