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Date:      Tue, 27 Sep 2022 13:05:33 +0530
From:      Saniya Maheshwari <saniya.mah@gmail.com>
To:        Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
Cc:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Heating issues with FreeBSD on laptop
Message-ID:  <9FYUIR.82P8WHQTKXWL2@gmail.com>
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Hi,

This laptop is new (I bought it just earlier this year), and I have 
also dual booted it with Fedora Linux which works completely okay, so I 
don't think this is a case of a CPU hardware issue ...

Thanks for your help, though.

Saniya

On Tue, Sep 27 2022 at 09:07:29 AM +0300 +0300, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk 
<m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 8:09 AM Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au 
> <mailto:smithi@nimnet.asn.au>> wrote:
>> On 27 September 2022 2:39:41 am AEST, Saniya Maheshwari 
>> <saniya.mah@gmail.com <mailto:saniya.mah@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>   > Hi,
>>   >
>>   > I just installed FreeBSD on my laptop, and everything went 
>> smoothly,
>>   > except one thing that my laptop seems to be a little warm and 
>> noisy
>>   > (due to the fans) even when it's idle.
>> 
>>  What make and model laptop?
>> 
>>  What version of FreeBSD?
>> 
>>   > Following some steps on other forums, I tried the following:
>>   >
>>   > $ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal'
>>   >
>>   > This gives me an 'unknown oid' error.
>>   >
>>   > $ sysctl -a | grep temp
>>   >
>>   > This gives no results.
>> 
>>  Please show results of
>> 
>>  $ sysctl hw.acpi
>> 
>>  If none, acpi.ko isn't loaded.
>> 
>>  Otherwise select Verbose Booting from the startup menu, and scan 
>> results in /var/run/dmesg.boot to look for errors while booting.
>> 
>>  You may need to put that file up on some site, and post a link to 
>> it here.
>> 
>>   > After running
>>   >
>>   > # kldload coretemp
>>   >
>>   > and retrying:
>>   >
>>   > $ sysctl -a | grep temperature
>>   >
>>   > I do get the CPU temperature values:
>>   >
>>   > dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C
>>   > dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C
>>   > dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C
>>   > ...
>>   >
>>   > All this is when the laptop is absolutely idle with just the 
>> shell
>>   > running in the TTY. I can confirm that
>>   >
>>   > # top
>>   >
>>   > shows the same (CPU 100% idle).
>>   >
>>   > I'm not sure what is going wrong and would be grateful for any 
>> help.
>> 
>>  How about:
>> 
>>  $ sysctl -a | grep fan
>> 
>>  cheers, Ian
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Many years ago I encountered such a case in DragonflyBSD :
> Frequently messages were displayed about high temperatures with 
> increased fan revolutions .
> 
> Later , I installed Linux .
> The high temperature messages with accompanying fan revolution 
> increases continued .
> In the end , the CPU completely failed .
> 
> This means , a CPU during progressive failure may show such high 
> temperature increases .
> 
> 
> With my best wishes .
> 
> 
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
> 
> 
> 
> 


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<div id=3D"geary-body" dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div>This lapto=
p is new (I bought it just earlier this year), and I have also dual booted =
it with Fedora Linux which works completely okay, so I don't think this is =
a case of a CPU hardware issue ...<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your help,=
 though.<div><br></div><div>Saniya</div></div></div><div id=3D"geary-quote"=
 dir=3D"auto"><br>On Tue, Sep 27 2022 at 09:07:29 AM +0300 +0300, Mehmet Er=
ol Sanliturk &lt;m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 27=
, 2022 at 8:09 AM Ian Smith &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smithi@nimnet.asn.au">smi=
thi@nimnet.asn.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex">On 27 September 2022 2:39:41 am AEST, Saniya Maheshwari &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:saniya.mah@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">saniya.mah@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&nbsp;&gt; Hi,<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; I just installed FreeBSD on my laptop, and everything went smoot=
hly, <br>
&nbsp;&gt; except one thing that my laptop seems to be a little warm and no=
isy <br>
&nbsp;&gt; (due to the fans) even when it's idle.<br>
<br>
What make and model laptop?<br>
<br>
What version of FreeBSD?<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&gt; Following some steps on other forums, I tried the following:<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; $ sysctl 'hw.acpi.thermal'<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; This gives me an 'unknown oid' error.<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; $ sysctl -a | grep temp<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; This gives no results.<br>
<br>
Please show results of<br>
<br>
$ sysctl hw.acpi<br>
<br>
If none, acpi.ko isn't loaded.<br>
<br>
Otherwise select Verbose Booting from the startup menu, and scan results in=
 /var/run/dmesg.boot to look for errors while booting.<br>
<br>
You may need to put that file up on some site, and post a link to it here.<=
br>
<br>
&nbsp;&gt; After running<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; # kldload coretemp<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; and retrying:<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; $ sysctl -a | grep temperature<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; I do get the CPU temperature values:<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; dev.cpu.15.temperature: 51.0C<br>
&nbsp;&gt; dev.cpu.13.temperature: 50.0C<br>
&nbsp;&gt; dev.cpu.11.temperature: 50.0C<br>
&nbsp;&gt; ...<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; All this is when the laptop is absolutely idle with just the she=
ll <br>
&nbsp;&gt; running in the TTY. I can confirm that<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; # top<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; shows the same (CPU 100% idle).<br>
&nbsp;&gt; <br>
&nbsp;&gt; I'm not sure what is going wrong and would be grateful for any h=
elp.<br>
<br>
How about:<br>
<br>
$ sysctl -a | grep fan<br>
<br>
cheers, Ian<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default=
">Many years ago I encountered such a case in DragonflyBSD :</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"=
>Frequently messages were displayed about high temperatures with increased =
fan revolutions .<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font=
-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:ta=
homa,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Later , I installe=
d Linux .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
 class=3D"gmail_default">The high temperature messages with accompanying fa=
n revolution increases continued .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">In the end , the CPU comp=
letely failed .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">This means , a CPU durin=
g progressive failure may show such high temperature increases .</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
 class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">With my best wishes .<br></div=
><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmai=
l_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <b=
r></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=
=3D"gmail_default"></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp=
;</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>
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