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Note the explicit 13.5 release mentions. However, https://www.freebsd.org/security/ makes no mention of 13.5: > Branch Release Release Date Expected EoLstable/14 n/a n/a November 30, = 2028 > . . . > stable/13 n/a n/a April 30, 2026 > releng/13.4 13.4-RELEASE September 17, 2024 June 30, 2025 > releng/13.3 13.3-RELEASE March 5, 2024 December 31, 2024 It reads is as if releng/13.4 was to be the last 13.*-RELEASE . I'll note that: https://www.freebsd.org/security/unsupported/ lists: releng/13.0 13.0-RELEASE n/a April 13, 2021 August 31, 2022 and the announcement's wording with "supported until 5 years after 13.0" is not explicit about the 2021-April-13 vs. 2022-Aug-31 for the start of the 5 years --but the security table suggests the 2021-Apr-13 as the start of the about 5 years. So it looks to me like releng/13.4 possibly should have "Expected EOL" listed as something like "13.5-RELEASE + 3 months", much like releng/14.1 lists "14.2-RELEASE + 3 months". In other words: it probably should mention the next 13.* release number (13.5) in some way. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com