From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 6 8: 6:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from domain.com (44.mujb.dlls.dllstxbk.dsl.att.net [12.98.249.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF50137B416 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 37628 invoked by alias); 6 Nov 2001 16:06:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jason) (12.98.249.42) by 44.mujb.dlls.dllstxbk.dsl.att.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 16:06:55 -0000 Message-ID: <0fe401c166dd$4bd4d710$2af9620c@jason> From: "Jason Halbert" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Kenneth Wayne Culver" Cc: , "Forrest Aldrich" References: <000901c166a7$12aec620$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: ADSL with Verizon Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:08:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually... their are 3 separate companies. You have the actual phone company Verizon. They own the ILEC. The company that provides the DSL service and T lines and above line is Verizon Advanced Data Services. They are separate companies due to FCC regulations. Then you have VerizonOnline the ISP. ---- Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" Cc: "Jason Halbert" ; ; "Forrest Aldrich" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 03:40 Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kenneth Wayne Culver [mailto:culverk@wam.umd.edu] > >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:06 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Jason Halbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Forrest Aldrich > >Subject: RE: ADSL with Verizon > > > > > >> yes - but that difference is only of consequence to the end user (you) > >> and the ISP. (the thing on the other end of the DSL line that your > >> connected to) It's just ATM packets to the Telco. Don't confuse the > >> ISP (the thing on the other end of the DSL circuit to you) with the > >> circuit provider. (the Telco) > > > >If he's with verizon on the east coast of the US, then the ISP and the > >circuit provider are the same company. (BTW, if you look at dslreports, > >most of the reviews of verizon say it's not that great) > > > > I'm not so sure about that - Verizon has recently begun fracturing itself > internally into multiple companies, all operating under the Verizon name. > I am getting extremely pissed off at them now - you cannot even call in > to Verizon's test and turn up department test on a god damn T1 without > being told "we can't tell you anything about that because the ILEC hasn't > released it back to us" when the ILEC is Verizon!!! > > I am positive though that verizon.net (the Verizon ISP) and Verizon.com > (the people that own the phone lines and provide the DSL signalling on > it) are indeed different companies that are what you call "completely seperate > and independent companies that just happen to share the same name" that > statement was right out of a Verizon reps mouth. It's enough to drive > you insane. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > >Ken > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message