From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 11:44:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7954F37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EC643F75 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-current@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19T4Nc-0001BS-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:43:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19T4Lo-0000wR-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:41:36 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:41:41 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <200306190025.RAA17828@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20030619180639.GC20382@speedy.unibe.ch> <20030619182309.GV13111@starjuice.net> <20030619182625.GE20382@speedy.unibe.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: APM problem in 5.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:44:59 -0000 Tobias Roth wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 08:23:09PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: >> On (2003/06/19 20:06), Tobias Roth wrote: >> >> > you compare a stable linux kernel branch with an unstable freebsd >> > branch. please make yourself familiar with freebsds (and possibly >> > linux') release process before you make statements like this. you will >> > only piss off the people that are trying to help you. >> >> While I understand the desire to "protect FreeBSD", I don't think you're >> being fair. >> >> Jesse was providing useful information, and drew logical conclusions >> from it. > > ok. i hereby apologize to Jesse. i didn't mean to sound too harsh. Don't sweat it. I understand. I like FreeBSD too. However, I'd like to note here that I HAVE tried APM support under 4.8-RELEASE on this laptop, and I couldn't even get 4.8 to detect APM in the BIOS at kernel boot. That may very well have been correctable with an obscure kernel option, but I doubt it. I'm pretty familiar with 4.8 as I run it on all of my servers. So, in short, I'm only running 5.1-RELEASE right now because 4.8 wouldn't detect APM at all... But I'm not here to gripe about it. I want to fix it. I want to make it better. I very strongly dislike giving Linux praise over FreeBSD. It's painful. :) So let's try to figure out why this CD-ROM keeps me from resuming after suspend, shall we? -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net