From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 8 17:40:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B55B131BF9 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 17:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f68.google.com (mail-io1-f68.google.com [209.85.166.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46nl4L1L1nz4JGW for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 17:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f68.google.com with SMTP id z19so38487130ior.0 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LE8BiqsmH+2jj9gdU0mJ+m+dOmtO2BgE9v7A8j8owug=; b=F66tq7rthyemRuLyY3X8cUCBs7x1pU3YXOx3nF4NsVeL/e5kdNv0UfktGEMCr17nFL ja0P2fKfuv4f4e1JCDl1ZASTIk9i6gDHD4tcNrhmgbLTe2ur2Sm+VlLBmfdUEnhGw6xb MeLfxrLHsZ3L407d+6qRny/xC0r8vpX1ZwSShFu3qYvXnfjeTEPJ52ELGWCfNKLLMlS1 9N19x8Fqen8NhmYGptXQ2c4S7tqPwl6DHBHmW4X8WoHviW4ZxWZFmWm7JTd5HGUWxhdN GQ/vwjZ2ZP/nqi7NOVJMEsRDBtOdJKe5tUwMaIgFhuNa8TykywMuxzWbmHMc6CB9jGcu HSMg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW+98R+o2m6OB69oyvjjY8bBT97fdlKrygPS0ch/qWyJEY/U8Uz 99xA72XBEBhP9lNB7ZcTObakLeBNOMKrjdxdj8w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxI/l8nwfu8S9RhFrHe0zW0TS/F78/nOFRNtJTIkuu8m6iq9R3Y93Ou/RXoQJ1PT6MEXMYSsPj0QOIYohFmM3U= X-Received: by 2002:a92:995a:: with SMTP id p87mr37093225ili.115.1570556430405; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 10:40:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 13:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gcc 4.2.1 to be removed before FreeBSD 13, a firm timeline To: Warner Losh Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46nl4L1L1nz4JGW X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.68 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.54 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[68.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.54)[ip: (-2.27), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.26), asn: 15169(-2.14), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[68.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 17:40:35 -0000 On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 12:00, Warner Losh wrote: > > Greetings, > > As promised for almost the past decade or so, gcc 4.2.1 will be removed > from the tree before FreeBSD 13 is branched. > > I propose the following timeline for its removal: > > 2019-08-31: disconnect gcc 4.2.1 from CI build > > Turn off -Werror on gcc 4.2.1 platforms > > Turn off all gcc 4.2.1 from universe by default (can be turned on) I paid most attention to the later dates in the original email (end of year and end of next March) and was caught a bit off guard by this when it was recently mentioned on IRC. Thus I wanted to refresh this topic on the list, and remind everyone that this is imminent - soon a default `make universe` without external toolchain will not include GCC 4.2.1 archs (mips, powerpc, sparc64). Warner's patch is in progress in review D21942.