From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mon Jul 1 15:40:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C9015DDCAE for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4129384399 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 854EA15DDC9B; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC615DDC99 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43C6984349 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD5551BEF9 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x61Fe5gS086143 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:05 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x61Fe5Bx086142 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:40:05 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 238906] graphics/mesa-dri: Allow building without LLVM Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:40:05 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: needs-patch, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: ml+freebsd@vishwin.info X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: x11@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: cc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 15:40:15 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D238906 Charlie Li changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ml+freebsd@vishwin.info --- Comment #3 from Charlie Li --- (In reply to Helge Oldach from comment #2) > It's not needed for anything else. Broadly speaking, if you don't have a > Radeon card or don't need acceleration, it's just bloat. >=20 LLVM is actually needed for *non-accelerated* graphics, particularly with LLVMpipe. Many desktop environments/toolkits expect some sort of accelerati= on anymore (even if you don't think it does), and LLVMpipe and the like provide that software rendering. > (Besides I'm kind of puzzled why we don't simply use the base system's LL= VM > which for 12-STABLE and above is already LLVM80. Maybe just my lack of > understanding.) -RELEASEs don't change the toolchain originally available upon release, so = for 12.0-RELEASE, LLVM is fixed at 6.0.0. Besides, the base system LLVM is buil= t as static libraries and binaries, and some LLVM components not needed/useful to build the base system are stripped away. Think, the base system uses a comp= iler toolchain *based on LLVM*, in the same way that the base system GCC isn't vanilla either. I won't hesitate to post this wiki page again: https://wiki.freebsd.org/WhyDoIHaveToBuildLLVMWhenIAlreadyHaveClangInstalled --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=