From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 27 07:38:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE14A16A4A5 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 07:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sippysoft.com (gk.360sip.com [72.236.70.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4458E43D46 for ; Sat, 27 May 2006 07:38:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (S0106000f3d63befd.vs.shawcable.net [70.71.19.119]) (authenticated bits=0) by sippysoft.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4R7c6EZ065240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 27 May 2006 00:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <447801D9.3060901@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 00:38:01 -0700 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Sippy Software, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20060527024407.GA2525@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4477C401.2080307@rogers.com> <38C8392F-C345-41F7-A879-6C2F5D2C59F5@orthanc.ca> <1B5AEAC9-2A87-40F1-B2D4-2069DCBC30FE@orthanc.ca> <4477EFDF.80608@alumni.rice.edu> <9f7850090605262331j352d98acwa3837251300c591b@mail.gmail.com> <4477F687.2030109@FreeBSD.org> <20060527065621.GA4814@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060527065621.GA4814@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lyndon Nerenberg , marty fouts , Mike Jakubik , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, kmacy@fsmware.com Subject: Re: [RFC] Removal of Fortran from the base system X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 07:38:17 -0000 Steve Kargl wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:49:43PM -0700, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >> C'mon. Nothing in the base system requires fortran - install the >> version you like from ports and enjoy the life. What's the problem? >> > > The problems are the Cons points in my initial post. > FreeBSD has always shipped a Fortran compiler. Stripping > it out violates POLA. Additionally, the the Ports Collection > currently assumes the availability of a Fortran compiler. Well, if it A touches 0.0001% of FreeBSD users, POLA isn't really relevant. I fail to name at least 1 person who seriously relies on Fortran in the base FreeBSD among at least 2,000 FreeBSD users I know. -Maxim