From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 27 13: 1: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from piranha.amis.net (piranha.amis.net [212.18.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D0637BD76 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:00:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@amis.net) Received: from gold.amis.net (gold.amis.net [212.18.32.254]) by piranha.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32745D22; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:00:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:00:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan To: Dennis Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Onboard Intel NIC In-Reply-To: <200003271852.NAA18460@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Been there, done that...tired of waiting. What does one do when the > maintainers dont maintain if complaining isnt allowed? Fix it yourself. If you don't know how or don't have the time - tough luck. Buy a support contract or use a commercial OS. > Yes, lets silence the critics. Nice way to run an O/S. Of course! I have many issues with FreeBSD myself, but I don't run to this mailing list and complain the way you do - it's not the complaining itself, it's the attitude that comes with it. The point of open source operating systems is, that they are user-supported. Users _volunteer_ their spare time to work on the system, answer questions, etc. It seems like you expect that everybody is just waiting to fix your problem and drop all the other work they have. The day you realise that this is a volunteer effort and that _everyone_ involved has to work on it (including you), will be the day of enlightment for you. > Last time I asked a simple question as to whether this problem had been > fixed yet and I was told to figure it out myself. It seems that with the > freebsd-slackers the only was to get results is to emphasize the importance > of this to your user base. The fxp driver is "recommended" as the best > driver, yet maintaining it is a burden and complaining is not allowed. The "fxp" driver works just fine. I use it in all my servers and would recommend it anytime to anyone. You seem to have a problem with a specific version of the card and now expect the developer to drop all his work and everybody else to listen to your problem. > When is that BSDI "support" going to kick-in? When you start paying for it? Dennis, please don't take this personal, but you don't seem to get it - complaining does not help, it only pisses people off. You can either 1) colaborate with developers as much as you can and hope they will be able to fix your problem 2) fix the problem yourself 3) pay someone to fix the problem Blaz Zupan, blaz@amis.net, http://home.amis.net/blaz/ Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message