From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 22:12:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EAB1065671 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBD48FC1A for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [82.95.250.254]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m22LwUp6095435; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:58:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.14.2/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m22LwU1p005118; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:58:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m22LwUmg005117; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:58:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:58:30 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Julian H. Stacey" Message-ID: <20080302215830.GC4881@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20080302210434.GB80576@hoeg.nl> <200803022126.m22LQjqo067322@fire.js.berklix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803022126.m22LQjqo067322@fire.js.berklix.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Ed Schouten , FreeBSD Advocacy Subject: Re: National mailinglists - why isn't it there yet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:12:35 -0000 Quoting Julian H. Stacey, who wrote on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 10:26:45PM +0100 .. > Ed Schouten wrote: > > > > --WYTEVAkct0FjGQmd > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I was just speaking with another dutch FreeBSD user (and developer) > > about FreeBSD mailing lists. > > > > I know so far most of the national FreeBSD user groups have their own > > infrastructure that doesn't use any services from the FreeBSD project > > (for example, the Dutch BSD User Group, D-BUG). > > > > Even though I am convinced the FreeBSD project should remain focused on > > developing its flagship product, the operating system, I think the > > community would have a great advantage if the project would already host > > national mailing lists, which should only be used for questions in the > > rare cases where the person doesn't understand English, but mainly to > > coordinate activities which have a national scope. > > > > These mailing lists could be used to discuss upcoming events and > > conferences, but could also be used for discussions about translations > > of the documentation. > > > > Is there a reason why such mailing lists don't exist yet? If not, what > > kind of procedures should one follow to create a mailing list for a > > certain language? > > > > --=20 > > Ed Schouten > > Only country I know of is Germany: In that case there is a DNS > localy delegated namespace sub domain de.freebsd.org, & within that > there were (last I looked) 7 lists run from a majordomo@ (not a > mailman@ http:// interface though they do have a mirror of the > standard http:// stuff ) Each country's localy oriented nationals > can do their own thing within that. To comment specifically on D-BUG from .nl : that user group is effectively dead. The remaining money on the D-BUG bank account has been transfered to the NLUUG (Netherlands Unix Users Group). I know because I had to sign for that transfer to happen. Not enough volunteer force to keep it afloat summarises it. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org