From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 16 15:40:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036BB37B404; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.reptiles.org (mail.reptiles.org [198.96.117.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA9443FB1; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:40:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoffrey@reptiles.org) Received: from mail.reptiles.org([198.96.117.157]) (2190 bytes) by mail.reptiles.org via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:40:51 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.115-Pre 2001-Aug-6 #2 built 2002-Nov-19) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:40:51 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey To: Doug Barton Cc: Tim Bishop , Subject: Re: STABLE on a new production system In-Reply-To: <20030316151219.N73850@znfgre.tberna.bet> Message-ID: <20030316183414.J39655-100000@iguana.reptiles.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Doug Barton wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Tim Bishop wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm about to start building a new production server (web and e-mail > > mainly) and I'm pondering which version of FreeBSD to install. All my > > other productions machines are running either -STABLE or in the most > > important cases a security branch. I follow this list, so I'm confident > > enough to run -STABLE :-) > > Good, run -stable. :) > > > However, now FreeBSD 5.0 is out I'm unsure of what to install on a new > > machine. I'm aware that 5.0 isn't geared towards production systems, > > and I expect there could be some stability issues or problems building > > ports. That said, if I opt for 4.8 it won't be that long until I'll be > > looking at reinstalling/upgrading to get up to 5.2 and the new -STABLE. So > > maybe just opting for 5.0 and bearing with it for the coming months is > > the way to go? > > Regardless of cvs tags, an actual production-ready 5.x is at least a year > away. Only run 5.x IF you can handle down time, debugging, and reading > both freebsd-current and the source cvs commit list religiously. (And yes, > this is meant to be scary.) > At the same time, it would not be a bad idea to encourage him to get into the loop and build a 5.0 box and join -current and commits to at least get a feel for what is going on. I'm not at all suggesting this for production, but for experience. "You cannot deftly manipulate the control stick if you are suffering from diarrhoea"- [from a manual for Japanese Kamikaze pilots] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message