From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 9 22:00:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA816A407 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 22:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray.mihm@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C2E43D46 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 22:00:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ray.mihm@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id t13so1123590wxc for ; Tue, 09 May 2006 15:00:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kJOK+UIiHc4ySpHpP31HK57/lAwDp3syIpBpUxVjdtNMLGQ1blwkp0EmWpF/EGn8aLtAOeXMu89rxQSurLR9xAK4Vs/n0c0wAbGodK+Yn4aTGn2bUhlFJIV6eu9iQniVrZ9F1rqyybTv9BVDCY+z3r6Xh9nJjS8xtBy4DMp+7gU= Received: by 10.70.34.11 with SMTP id h11mr4600471wxh; Tue, 09 May 2006 15:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.46.9 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2006 15:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1aa142960605091500q6aca79d8l8eb2cdd0ff82ffe3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 15:00:11 -0700 From: "Ray Mihm" To: "Julian Elischer" In-Reply-To: <446103AD.5020006@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <5EB31780BD297F46812C8F495FA08F620438CAE3@electron.jnpr.net> <4460D595.8000408@elischer.org> <1aa142960605091325j151df1f6j909ee9ca3ae0ed75@mail.gmail.com> <200605092239.46594.net@dino.sk> <446103AD.5020006@elischer.org> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Milan Obuch Subject: Re: vrf support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 22:00:13 -0000 Using ipfw tables is essentially a non-starter, IMHO. How would routing protocols use ipfw based tables, for example? Marko's work touches a lot of files, but I don't think it's heavy weight. I also think using Marko's idea and Jails would allow create the notion of a logical system and multiple such logical systems may be configured on a single FreeBSD system. Regards, Ray. On 5/9/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > Milan Obuch wrote: > > >On Tuesday 09 May 2006 22:25, Ray Mihm wrote: > > > > > >>Can't you just incorporate Marko's work at > >>http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/BSD/vimage/index.html? The design looks > >>pretty clean too. And, XORP which probably is multiple tables aware, > >>would make FreeBSD a really kick-ass routing platform. > >> > >> > > marco and I have discussed this. > > it is a very heavyweight solution.. > using ipfw tables as ancilary routing tables is a very light weight > solution.. > > >> > >> > > > >Unfortunately, this is not easily doable. There is major architecture ch= ange > >after 4.x and Marko's work is 4.x based. But base design is really clean= and > >should be mimicked as close as possible, imho. > > > >I know this is not easy task. Just shame on me I can't help here with so= me > >code :( > > > >Regards, > >Milan > > > >Please reply to maling list only. I read it regularly. > > > > >