From owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 25 23:30:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03581065673; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC8D8FC12; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2PMIoTT001444; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:18:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20090324043028.GA34952@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200903120954.n2C9s2ev063133@repoman.freebsd.org> <20090313023956.GA49511@dragon.NUXI.org> <49BA52D2.8090209@FreeBSD.org> <20090323231412.GA94221@hub.freebsd.org> <20090324012325.GB1292@atarininja.org> <20090324043028.GA34952@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:18:49 -0400 To: obrien@freebsd.org, Wesley Shields From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0) X-RPI-SA-Score: 0.00 () [Hold at 20.00] 22490(-25) X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.227 Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Pav Lucistnik , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/shells/bash Makefile pkg-plist X-BeenThere: cvs-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:30:13 -0000 At 9:30 PM -0700 3/23/09, David O'Brien wrote: >On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:23:25PM -0400, Wesley Shields wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:14:13PM +0000, David O'Brien wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 01:34:26PM +0100, Pav Lucistnik wrote: >> > > David O'Brien wrote: >> > > >There is zero reason to force a reinstall for a PLIST change. >> > > >Either the port is already installed (and the user can wait for >> > > >some other reason to update), or the port isn't installed and >> > > >bumping PORTREVISION does nothing. >> > > > > > > It's needed for package cluster, otherwise it does not know to > > > > rebuild and will serve incomplete package forever. > > > >> > Is there ever a change then that doesn't require a bump in either >> > PORTREVISION or PORTVERSION? >.. >> Just changing the maintainer should not require the user to do anything. > >That is the only case I can think of. Even changing the comment or >pkg-descr should have its PORTREVISION bumped in order to get a new >package built so users have the fresh description. Ew, I don't like that at all. Why should I rebuild (say) bash just because someone fixes a typo in the description? The port is already installed, and I have no intention of reading the description until *maybe* the next time the package really does change. It's probably not that big a deal for bash, which is fairly easy to build and well-behaved. Now let's change the pkg-descr for some key component of Gnome, and have people spend a day to rebuild it and everything that depends on it, just because a description changed? In a file that no one is reading given that the port is already installed? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu