From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 10 15:51: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD3B14C9D for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:51:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA43025; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Luoqi Chen , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! In-Reply-To: <7594.944864544@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > This fails the most important criteria for the transistion to ATA: > it doesn't break existing kernel configs. > > Listen guys, this is a tempest in a tea-cup, we are not loosing any > functionality here, we are gaining functionality. > > The wd driver doesn't have anything to recommend it on the i386 > platform and we need to switch to ATA. Then go and switch.. I'm not stopping you. Just leave the old files there in the meanwhile! It's not hurting you to do so, so stop being so unwilling to listen to other people's opinions and get on with your development! In the meanwhile I'll look at Cyrix support. But first I have to learn about the ata driver and I have too much on my plate as it is.. > > This is *CURRENT* remember ? We want this transistion done and > tested before current becomes 4.0-RELEASE. The time is NOW! So add your new stuff.. there is no hurry to remove the old one. The fact that there is an objection from more than 2 committers on this should have killed the argument already. You'd complain if someone other than you went ahead with something with this amount of objection. Stop trying to steamroll and just Leave the files alone. The same rules apply to you as others and the over-riding rule has always been that a decent level of objection on a non crucial point is enough to stop it reagrdless of what the author of the point feels. That's the way it goes. for adding new stuff, and for deleting old stuff. If you feel that you are excempt from peer review and that the committers as a group should be ignorable, just let us know. > > If we don't force people over to the ata driver it will not get > tested as much as it needs to. It'll get tested well and truely enough if it's teh default. and if it DOESN't work for someone, havingn the wd to fall back on would be a bloody good idea (TM). > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message