From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 10:56:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BD637B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC45A43F93 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h45HurhX046683; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h45HuqAi046658; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) id h45HuqjD041579; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h45Hup95041554; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h45HupBS041553; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:56:51 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Scheidell@secnap.com Message-ID: <20030505175651.GB31779@luke.immure.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 on luke.immure.com X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 on maul.immure.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: blackmail attempt? Stable mailing list block? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:56:55 -0000 On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 12:39:39PM -0400, Scheidell@secnap.com wrote: > > "Bob Willcox" wrote in message news:<20030502215651.GE27495@luke.immure.com>... > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 01:08:55PM -0700, Tenebrae wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Andy Harrison wrote: > > using blacklists is a bad idea. The only blacklist that will stop all > > spam is one that covers all addresses! > > now you know the reason I created 'blocked.secnap.net'. > > It is a warning to anyone using blacklists: > know the blacklist policy before you use it. > The same blacklists you can use for personal use CANNOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. Unfortunately, spamguard and osirusoft both appear to pickup the spews.org blacklist, which claims to be only for their (the creators of of it) personal use with caveats about anyone else using it. Therefore, by your statement above (which I agree with 100%) neither spamguard or osirusoft should be used commerically (but, of course, are). > > (we have blocked a lot of resumes sent in from free mail services..) Yep, as I have stated before, SPAM is a significant nuisance and a complete waste of bandwidth; but for me, blocking my email arbitrarily (which is what I feel spews has done) is a DoS, and bothers me much more! Bob -- Bob Willcox Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. bob@immure.com -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Austin, TX