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Date:      Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:40:23 +0200 (METDST)
From:      hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis)
To:        hanche@math.ntnu.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen)
Cc:        freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: idletime disconnect won't work
Message-ID:  <m0yhr6t-00006hC@hcswork.hcs.de>
In-Reply-To: <19980604222304B.hanche@math.ntnu.no> from Harald Hanche-Olsen at "Jun 4, 98 10:23:04 pm"

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>From the keyboard of Harald Hanche-Olsen:

> Haven't got a second machine, sorry...  But I stopped isdnd and ran
> isdntrace -b on my one machine, and this appeared:
> 
> =========== isdntrace controller #0 =========== started Thu Jun  4 22:04:00 1998
> 
> -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000001 - time:04.06 22:04:24.58 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127
> 
> -- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000002 - time:04.06 22:04:24.58 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f 4d 9c 05 83                               ....M...
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x9c4d, IdCheckResp, Ai=65
> 
> -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000003 - time:04.06 22:04:56.79 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127
> 
> -- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000004 - time:04.06 22:04:56.79 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f d8 59 05 83                               .....Y..
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x59d8, IdCheckResp, Ai=65
> 
> -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000005 - time:04.06 22:05:29.01 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 ff                               ........
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=127
> 
> -- TE->NT - unit:0 - frame:000006 - time:04.06 22:05:29.01 - length:8 ----------
> Dump:000  fc ff 03 0f 29 b6 05 83                               ....)...
> LAPD: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0xb629, IdCheckResp, Ai=65
> 
> These messages came in groups of two, one IdCheckReq and one
> IdCheckResp at the time, and always at the same time log messages like
> showed above appeared.  Seems like my NT box is chattering to my ISDN
> telephone, asking for an identity and getting a response back, at
> irregular intervals.

Yes, i've seen this type of traces also from France. It seems that the
exchange verifies that a device is still connected to the S0 bus by
regularly "polling" it with TEI check requests. This is a legal inter-
action between a device and an exchange.

The PBX i'm connected to in the company i work for does this also but
AFAIK the german Telekom exchanges don't do it. 

Anyway, in case you get CRC errors every time this messages are exchanged,
i still suspect something is wrong with your local electrical ISDN setup,
such as cabling and/or termination.

hellmuth
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