From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 3 17: 5: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEE037B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0A543E42; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:05:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0020.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.20] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17xFxh-0000pP-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 17:04:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3D9CDAD5.6A97185E@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 17:03:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Emmerton , Garance A Drosihn , Poul-Henning Kamp , Sheldon Hearn , Marc Recht , Alexander Langer Subject: Re: expat2 in the base system? References: <3632.1033651189@critter.freebsd.dk> <007f01c26ae2$09b11ab0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20021003191753.GA56857@dragon.nuxi.com> <3D9CAF57.4F8BE24D@mindspring.com> <20021003234932.GA58769@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:57:59PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > The created mess that caused us to take Perl out of the base system is > > > that it cannot be cross built. This library is C/C++ code; so we can > > > easily cross compile it. > > > > I thought cross-building was a side issue to the fact that the > > system Perl was seen by Perl advocates as being "incomplete", for > > I guess it was a 50%-50% split on why perl-in-the-base-system needed to > go. I was 100% in the cross-building camp, as was Peter Wemm when I > helped convence him to back perl's removal. Either way, the arguments involved are totally irrelevent to expat2; 8-). The best sugggestion I've seen so far is "if you bring it it, rename it, so people won't use the system version by accident". I'm sure if the FreeBSD version of "Perl" had been named "Merl" instead, there would have been no problems, right? People who wanted "Perl" would install the package, never knowing "Merl" was "old version of Perl without CGI support" or whatever, and scripts wouldn't accidently find it, think about running, and then decide at the last minute to not run. 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message