From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Jun 1 22:11:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA985FD3547 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 22:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ignoranthack.me (ignoranthack.me [199.102.79.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 695B476E8F; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 22:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (67-0-245-183.albq.qwest.net [67.0.245.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sbruno@ignoranthack.me) by mail.ignoranthack.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDD9619289F; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Building and Iterating To: Brooks Davis Cc: freebsd-arch References: <20180601201221.GC29648@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> From: Sean Bruno Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=sbruno@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFk+0UEBCADaf4bgxxKvMOhRV5NPoGWRCCGm49d6+1VFNlQ77WsY/+Zvf95TPULdRlnG w648KfxWt7+O3kdKhdRwnqlXWC7zA2Qt0dRE1yIqOGJ4jp4INvp/bcxWzgr0aoKOjrlnfxRV bh+s0rzdZt6TsNL3cVYxkC8oezjaUkHdW4mFJU249U1QJogkF8g0FeKNfEcjEkwJNX6lQJH+ EzCWT0NCk6J+Xyo+zOOljxPp1OUfdvZi3ulkU/qTZstGVWxFVsP8xQklV/y3AFcbIYx6iGJ4 5L7WuB0IWhO7Z4yHENr8wFaNYwpod9i4egX2BugbrM8pOfhN2/qqdeG1L5LMtXw3yyAhABEB AAHNN1NlYW4gQnJ1bm8gKEZyZWVCU0QgRGV2ZWxvcGVyIEtleSkgPHNicnVub0BmcmVlYnNk Lm9yZz7CwJQEEwEKAD4WIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbAwUJBaOagAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAwIBAAIeAQIXgAAKCRC95PX+ibX8ttKTCACFKzRc56EBAlVotq02EjZP SfX+unlk6AuPBzShxqRxeK+bGYVCigrYd1M8nnskv0dEiZ5iYeND9HIxbpEyopqgpVTibA7w gBXaZ7SOEhNX1wXwg14JrralfSmPFMYni+sWegPMX/zwfAsn1z4mG1Nn44Xqo3o7CfpkMPy6 M5Bow2IDzIhEYISLR+urxs74/aHU35PLtBSDtu18914SEMDdva27MARN8mbeCDbuJVfGCPWy YHuy2t+9u2Zn5Dd+t3sBXLM9gpeaMm+4x6TNPpESygbVdh4tDdjVZ9DK/bWFg0kMgfZoaq6J l0jNsQXrZV3bzYNFbVw04pFcvA2GIJ7xzsBNBFk+0UEBCADIXBmQOaKMHGbc9vwjhV4Oj5aZ DdhNedn12FVeTdOXJvuTOusgxS29lla0RenHGDsgD08UiFpasBXWq/E+BhQ19d+iRbLLR17O KKc1ZGefoVbLARLXD68J5j4XAyK+6k2KqBLlqzAEpHTzsksM9naARkVXiEVcrt6ciw0FSm8n kuK3gDKKe93XfzfP+TQdbvvzJc7Fa+appLbXz61TM1aikaQlda8bWubDegwXbuoJdB34xU1m yjr/N4o+raL0x7QrzdH+wwgrTTo+H4S2c1972Skt5K5tbxLowfHicRl23V8itVQr3sBtlX4+ 66q+Apm7+R36bUS/k+G45Sp6iPpxABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYWIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbDAUJBaOagAAKCRC95PX+ibX8trrIB/9Pljqt/JGamD9tx4dOVmxSyFg9 z2xzgklTLuDgS73MM120mM7ao9AQUeWiSle/H0UCK7xPOzC/aeUC4oygDQKAfkkNbCNTo3+A qDjBRA8qx0e9a/QjDL+RFgD4L5kLT4tToY8T8HaBp8h03LBfk510IaI8oL/Jg7vpM3PDtJMW tUi2H+yNFmL3NfM2oBToWKLFsoP54f/eeeImrNnrlLjLHPzqS+/9apgYqX2Jwiv3tHBc4FTO GuY8VvF7BpixJs8Pc2RUuCfSyodrp1YG1kRGlXAH0cqwwr0Zmk4+7dZvtVQMCl6kS6q1+84q JwtItxS2eXSEA4NO0sQ3BXUywANh Message-ID: <43b75e30-70af-e98d-7d9f-8fccaf3dcbba@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:11:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180601201221.GC29648@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3z9ZuxdTalW0G6DH8D2eJDSCO1TxtFxEE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:11:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3z9ZuxdTalW0G6DH8D2eJDSCO1TxtFxEE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IYKstwpHx3Jfv4a6Z24UcUVyGAg9E7tkp"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sean Bruno To: Brooks Davis Cc: freebsd-arch Message-ID: <43b75e30-70af-e98d-7d9f-8fccaf3dcbba@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Building and Iterating References: <20180601201221.GC29648@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20180601201221.GC29648@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> --IYKstwpHx3Jfv4a6Z24UcUVyGAg9E7tkp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/01/18 14:12, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 11:20:22AM -0600, Sean Bruno wrote: >> 3. If the boostrap toolchain needs to be built in the normal case, on= ly >> target the ARCH being requested. I understand that we "want" a CC >> installed that targets all architectures and this is something I agree= with. >=20 > The LLVM backends are a tiny part of the LLVM build both in terms > of number of files and compile complexity. Removing them would > require quite a bit of work (and ongoing maintenance) for a negliable > improvement. >=20 > --- Brooks >=20 Brooks: Can you educate me on why its so hard to maintain this part of our tools? I'm ignorant here and haven't looked to deeply into the abyss whereas you have been swimming in the darkness. sean --IYKstwpHx3Jfv4a6Z24UcUVyGAg9E7tkp-- --3z9ZuxdTalW0G6DH8D2eJDSCO1TxtFxEE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE6MTp+IA1BOHj9Lo0veT1/om1/LYFAlsRxHpfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEU4 QzRFOUY4ODAzNTA0RTFFM0Y0QkEzNEJERTRGNUZFODlCNUZDQjYACgkQveT1/om1 /LbncAf8CjYKp68b1nYPvArRu4jJGGGyoYyfry5Nimskh6eKkLU1Bov1txvfFELW sFSom3b4n+18h4D/+JgD/geiYxc8tpWafSY40Oq9iJs16GCejBxQxQHY5D20NcG+ PCk8jr8Gm6oYWF/n5oEHAdLKWe4QiXm4ftBY5/4XABU5ylKCKM1RGRh4oKwfTFVG RI73POEh+amFO9YvI6+n9KXucOnaxyICZ1OVjhkN+piliTQ1dEzjYSAw75OQU39W 9UL5fJ4oGgctvohwtgvB/AUfVgXTECsddb+4OGYGU8WZHROMLtIdG0MDL1Y6SAAO IgviU9Eb4bGqzRl0F96mkhSoLO+7ag== =9Ib3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3z9ZuxdTalW0G6DH8D2eJDSCO1TxtFxEE--