From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 4 18:37:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44371537B for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA14642; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:06:56 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA57014; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:06:55 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:06:55 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Doug White Cc: Studded , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Current state of the conventional wisdom? Message-ID: <19990505110655.U40359@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990504092501.G10134@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Tue, May 04, 1999 at 03:17:34PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 4 May 1999 at 15:17:34 -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Monday, 3 May 1999 at 13:22:52 -0700, Doug White wrote: >>> On Mon, 3 May 1999, Studded wrote: >>> >>>> 1. As far as I can see, 3.1-Stable is the way to go. I need info on the >>>> best way to upgrade a 2.2.8 system to 3.1-Stable, going fully(?) elf in >>>> the process. >>> >>> I suggest holding off until 3.5. 3.X is a total mess at the moment, and >>> if your 2.2.8 box is running fine then don't touch it. >> >> Huh? What gives you that idea? I've been running 3.X for some time >> now, and I haven't had any trouble. If you make such negative >> statements, you should at least justify them. > > 1. 2.2.X -> 3.X upgrade doesn't handle a.out libraries, rendering a.out > bins (netscape, built ports, etc.) useless until they're moved. It did for me. > 2. Sysinstall locks up during the second device probe. I haven't seen this. > 3. Sysinstall locks up during extraction on machines with <=8MB RAM. Yes, this is one known bug. > 4. Kernel panics mysteriously after device probe when devices are > removed; unedited kernel boots normally. I haven't seen this. > 5. /kernel.config fiasco. Details? > 6. NFS instabilities. NFS has been unstable for quite some time. I haven't seen any evidence that it's got worse with 3.1. > 7. I can't find fault with that one :-) A lot of this suggests hearsay rather than firm problems. The only one I know of as a fact is (3), and that doesn't affect most people. What are the PR numbers for these problems? >> On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend installing 3.1 right now. 3.2 >> will be released in the middle of the month, and it's probably worth >> waiting for. > > I'll wait and see. The conventional release cycle has the .5 release as a > strong comeback for the branch. Reference 2.0.5, 2.1.5, 2.2.5... You've been away for a while. There will be no more .X.5 releases. >> We've had trouble with NFS for years. 3.X is no worse than 2.X, and >> it's probably better. The good news is that we've recently seen a lot >> of fixes for NFS go into -CURRENT, and they'll probably appear in 3.X >> (probably 3.3) as well. > > -CURRENT is the best NFS candidate, thanks to Matt Dillon's hard work. > Unfortunately -CURRENT has problems elsewhere. Of course, that's why it's -CURRENT. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message