From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 20 01:31:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BB916A4CE for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:31:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4774843D77 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:31:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from speck.techno.pagans (c-24-21-241-225.client.comcast.net [24.21.241.225]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970F72A41A; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spud (w0.techno.pagans [172.21.42.20]) by speck.techno.pagans (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD55C17029; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:31:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: , Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:31:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c48655$7804f730$142a15ac@spud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: What annoys me more... X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:31:59 -0000 From: John Murphy >=20 > What annoys me more than top-posting or html postings is the tendency > of MS email clients to horribly reformat quoted text so that odd words > appear on a line by themselves. >=20 > I've even seen it happen to original text when the poster hits CR at > some presumably inappropriate time. >=20 > Never used Outlook or Outlook Express myself but I get the impression > that what they see is NOT what they send. Outlook has a wrapping feature you can set in characters per line. The problem is that it isn't applied to the message until you click Send, so you won't know how it will actually look until it's too late to change it. Outlook XP and later have the ability to strip extra returns, but it screws up things like cut-and-pasted output text (imagine a dmesg output with all the line breaks replaced with single spaces). An errant CR in your message tends to do odd things to the wrapper as well. The wrapper and formatter for plaintext quoting need a lot of work. If you know what you're doing, though, you configure Outlook into a pretty solid email client with an amazing amount of organizational power. This was written in Outlook XP, btw.