From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 29 03:24:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA37E106566B for ; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-198-245.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6736814D89B; Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EAB71F9.9090602@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:24:41 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111001 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20111027102208.88BFB106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <20111028084329.134A0106566C@hub.freebsd.org> <4EAB5823.5090804@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: undefined OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Thomas Mueller , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade from source to RC1: problems with /etc : lost users and dbus X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:24:42 -0000 On 10/28/2011 20:09, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 10/28/2011 01:43, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>> How does one run mergemaster without running roughshod over existing configuration? >> >> Carefully? :) Seriously ... always use the -P option, and/or add >> PRESERVE_FILES in your mergemaster rc file. Watch the changes carefully. >> If you have to, do the updates in more than one pass using the -r option >> for subsequent runs. Do the simple ones first, then go back and do the >> ones that you have to think harder about. I recommend against using the >> -U option. >> >> It's not rocket science, it's just like any other system administration >> task, it requires careful attention. > > I agree that just running mergemaster CAREFULLY does the job. The only > time I was ever burned was when I was in a BIG hurry and ended up > wasting a LOT of time. (I think I also learned.) Of course, I also > remember merging /etc before we had mergemaster. Yeah, me too, that's why I wrote it. :) > I am a bit curious why you recommend against -U, though. I've been > using it since it was added and have never had a problems. It's saved > me quite a bit of time. Is thee a corner case that I'm missing? The case where there are relevant changes in configuration or other files that you miss because you install them without examination. That said, I realize that what people *want* is an upgrade process that they don't have to look at and/or think about. As soon as I figure out how to make mergemaster telepathic I'll be sure to add that patch. Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/