From owner-freebsd-testing@freebsd.org Sun Nov 15 13:10:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-testing@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4438A27D6F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8BB144E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B894DA27D6E; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: testing@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8278A27D6C for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D883144A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing-machine@vniz.net) Received: by lbbkw15 with SMTP id kw15so75319062lbb.0 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:10:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JDX2dDuaZdq2EnJ/EHJcZHZUebySEUeBXOxdB6pnE8I=; b=i5HWgxJed1zIWUj3T/6odM7PGkw5mo48YXgJmErGsSG6/jrWMAPs5nOVh/Rnp5txsm l+xiaAB0YDdN/va0V0WBB0ggQmSsSfBtSqK6U7UAZRs9eAh1xXOiStXJvoD+3c1Q9kwH DrY0BjJEddzIXxZIYw/rxJf8VkecznlJYTpsE9Qo0USvLw7t4BgcHv9FjLWWGSeAuhPn MysON+tpQA2qEGGKIYTgDjKT9rbx2NZtE77S3KNekTmLHEFQJ3UGQpZ5MZZk4BVeq+zu XXUkunfumATL9rvb0jKS00fFM4ZpQ1TJZUnNKtwUHlq/yQtzMn0owkdtzieVgC2jixzh n8yw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkT8wb+DLn2hDv/Jtbrbxu0MAdTtM9bRgVbc3+iAlzIHaXIQkdp6OHDqChYUqKLGbMIQLe2 X-Received: by 10.112.141.201 with SMTP id rq9mr14813272lbb.4.1447593007512; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id vz2sm4674039lbb.35.2015.11.15.05.10.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Nov 2015 05:10:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests To: marino@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin References: <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> <564882A3.7060109@marino.st> Cc: NGie Cooper , Craig Rodrigues , freebsd-current Current , "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" From: Andrey Chernov Message-ID: <5648842E.3050203@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:10:06 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <564882A3.7060109@marino.st> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Testing on FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 13:10:10 -0000 > Well, there is "harm". The -1/-15 confusion happens a lot. It is user confusion and his responsibility. It not leads to wrong program build f.e. Moreover, you can't protect users who set 8859-1 that way, they do not convert to 8859-15 as you assume but start to complain everywhere that FreeBSD is not working instead. > Is the plan to keep every locale ever created for ever and ever? Never > do any kind of kind of cleanup or reorg? It will be nice to do it that way. FreeBSD have a little part of world locales, which indirectly assumes that they are really used. -- http://ache.vniz.net/