From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 27 18:44:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21616BA5761 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D82C1138B for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.155.172] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1bSTot-0000qW-VD; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:44:40 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (c720-r292778-amd64 [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id u6RIia6n001991 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:44:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id u6RIiXaV001990; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:44:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:44:33 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Warren Block , Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no beep any more Message-ID: <20160727184433.GA1830@c720-r292778-amd64> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Warren Block , Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20160726114846.GA6424@c720-r292778-amd64> <20160726173236.GA62958@lime.woodcruft.co.uk> <20160726175036.GC1820@c720-r292778-amd64.fritz.box> <20160727041335.GA4448@c720-r292778-amd64> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160727041335.GA4448@c720-r292778-amd64> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r292778 (amd64) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.155.172 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:44:51 -0000 El día Wednesday, July 27, 2016 a las 06:13:35AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > El día Tuesday, July 26, 2016 a las 04:02:25PM -0600, Warren Block escribió: > > > I think it's more likely that the Chromebook has been cost-reduced to > > not have a hardware beeper. > > I have two of these Acer C720 Chromebooks. One is still beeping and the > other only in the coreboot splash screen, and was beeping in FreeBSD > before. I do not see anything which supports your idea. Ok. To bring a bit structure in the problem hunting, I will a) concentrate first on the C720 which still beeps (to eliminate the risk that the other has a hardware issue) b) let away X11, and use as test cases only: 1. it should beep on key backspace while cursor is on prompt 2. it should beep on a second ESC in editor vi 3. it should beep on the shell command: printf "\7" The C720 in question runs r292778 and beeps fine in test cases 1, 2 and 3. I produced an USB stick with a bootable system from CURRENT of tonight, r303343, with the exact same configuration: kernel GENERIC same /boot/loader.conf same /boot/device.hints same /etc/rc.conf The r303343 does fail on the above test cases on the same hardware. Why? matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Wer übersieht, dass wir uns den anderen weggenommen haben und sie uns wiederhaben wollen, kann von den Kämpfen der letzten Tage keinen verstehen. Und kann natürlich auch keinen dieser Kämpfe bestehen." Hermann Kant in jW 1.10.1989