From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Sun Jan 22 18:57:27 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34177CBD353 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russ.haley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg0-x243.google.com (mail-pg0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05A1938E for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russ.haley@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 204so11685633pge.2 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:57:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:subject:from :in-reply-to:references:to; bh=W1GLpIlSl2piXqp9ly1wcqqaoNPmiWWYCZ/1pTEYXgM=; b=MpOxYY0y7XFoHWnPAOPsDtez8Q+uEOQ0pw2xy8vqWNdU+bLbzuXsDluayQqbR+nhT4 6rrkk/AlYgb0rvtIIffhfCmozy6Kx5KFk0JPS1ak8ZZlu1mNaeL17C24Pnmz2uasq5Ca uz6nZ5u3aARToBeRvaHeQtoSt01cO7roZNNRrM4nuda8RDIhBSYrJ1PF6mvICoBLImGc V50HX+iz6EAp63oFRPDABETpyiIY3351AxAHJweHAT4p8zoG7y4T2HjOh1lnBQDV94NY dhSF9+7RrwrmbNuDNUOlxu5Lxy0ZMKh7BRRXo4qLKadVnO3IUlJhRpM+3n9IhKrZ+9iv qlWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:date:subject:from:in-reply-to:references:to; bh=W1GLpIlSl2piXqp9ly1wcqqaoNPmiWWYCZ/1pTEYXgM=; b=PjzDAlYK2V+zsQoOZvYmg841AJ4L+XdGnaxwIDARWat7b/g28XopN/1iZRAmK71wnT 3w+Yi4rez29+frK8QpXGn5m06Z7a3yiuWmBUk8n50Muxc4H6sSuZt4meKP1fv2+/Ey+5 a1Ih+IbmA7Lr2T9VOMx1ljdx8WRED0tQnCUuWs2Bu3g+Lrk3l1JWVU3s/jQtVIzTprBX L4JcYlyR5kPS6yG6TqmFqE/+iC03obfuEDpE/laF7AxyDgSyap/uSA3ntQhafvg1cUYn HvpymJewc5uaIUzpqn+ySeUzdyXB89f3M87/Zp6jG2Qd3Gln70LEEORmrIZ9t4c1F9Vg OJmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXISczCsAAXyZxFjk4iAJThiJkWJ0hUrEyN+MghAySd/6JlWMNX+UJJGSwAhywdv0g== X-Received: by 10.99.67.6 with SMTP id q6mr9279607pga.156.1485111446619; Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([184.151.231.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y23sm31065181pfi.66.2017.01.22.10.57.25 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:57:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.3.2163) Message-ID: <20170122185725.5791826.41144.19181@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:57:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Durable/serious arm hardware ? From: Russell Haley In-Reply-To: <45d41ec7-3004-ea6c-560e-50bdff9b997a@caliopea.com> References: <45d41ec7-3004-ea6c-560e-50bdff9b997a@caliopea.com> To: nowhere , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:57:27 -0000 Sorry about the top post, my computer is in a box.=C2=A0 Have you looked at the products from Netgate?=E2=80=8E They are the sponsor= for PFSense and Jim Thompson is somewhat regular on this list. They have n= ew product based on an arm board, but also have some nice SOHO stuff based = on low power x86 boards. =E2=80=8E As Ian pointed out there are dozens of manufacturers and many SOMs/SBC are = not for consumers, but you need to be able to specify the hardware you want= and order in bulk. Many have dev boards but good luck getting complete har= dware support without some effort.=C2=A0 That said, =C2=A0I've had good luck with my solid run hummingboard (dev bas= e board) and their SOM but there is much unsupported hardware still. They u= sed to sell a case for it too.=C2=A0 If this is for work, Netgate may be your best option because it will come w= ith a warranty and all the rest.=C2=A0 Russ Sent=C2=A0from=C2=A0my=C2=A0BlackBerry=C2=A010=C2=A0smartphone=C2=A0on=C2= =A0the=C2=A0Virgin=C2=A0Mobile=C2=A0network. =C2=A0 Original Message =C2=A0 From: nowhere Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:26 AM To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Durable/serious arm hardware ? Hello I'd like to hear from the most skilled of you, if anybody knows serious=20 arm based hardware or share this though : I'm becoming convinced that=20 theses hardware (arm based) are just the consumable-smartphone fashion=20 counterpart for kids and leisures or tests. Not really final and=20 carefully finished products; abble to works for years or a decade; doing=20 is job in a office corner, being forgotten by anyone, like some of my=20 older freebsd servers wich are running for a decade now. Those past years, I've bought 3 arm based devices : 1 raspberry-pi , which was affected by the "micron-ram-chip" bug: except=20 with debian, it never booted on freebsd (I even tried netbsd): I just=20 trashed it yesterday (bought in 2014 i think). 1 Beagleboneblack : works fine for weeks then freeze suddenly. And=20 sometimes did not event reboot (*): had to loop-reset it until boot=20 process go to the end. Seem the most "workable" product so far.. (bought=20 in 2015) 1 olimex a20-lime2-emmc: my most recent buy. It did not event boot with=20 network with it's own debian sd card... (I did not yet take time to make=20 it's own freebsd sd card): (bought in 2016-07). My goals, for example, with theses boards were to give some of my nomads=20 customers, a box with an autonomous dhcp/dns/vpn server on theyr=20 networks, without the need to change anything else than disabling their=20 dhcp servers for instance : I think a Quad xeon racked server is a bit=20 too much for theses tasks; I was using pfsence on pcengines boards=20 before to do this kind of things. Since my conclusions are based only on theses 3 boards, I'd like to hear=20 from thoses of you who works daily with these boards, and thoses opinion=20 are based on far more than my hand counted experiences. PM. (*) I work with a 5V/5A (25w) psu: that's not an overloaded psu problem;=20 Not a damaged emmc/sd card problem too: all my systems are=20 read-only-root based: seems to really be an hardware issue. _______________________________________________ freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"