From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 11 15:49:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA78B16A41F for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:49:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from amber.aeternal.net (amber.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F2D43D45 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:49:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655F6B884 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:49:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from amber.aeternal.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (amber.aeternal.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57476-06 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.aeternal.net [192.168.0.44]) by amber.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A1B88A for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C59FB1141E; Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:49:01 +0200 From: martin hudec To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050911154901.GI69713@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <200509090959.40296.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200509091848.53844.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <4323EA55.2030708@FreeBSD.org> <200509110750.15613.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2xeD/fx0+7k8I/QN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200509110750.15613.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> X-Copyright: (C) 2005 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 7.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r445 (FreeBSD) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at aeternal.net Subject: Re: php extensions compile error - another compile bug? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: martin hudec List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:49:01 -0000 --2xeD/fx0+7k8I/QN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello David, On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 07:50:14AM -0700 or thereabouts, Vizion wrote: > Seeing as I am in the process of trying to build a resource to help victi= ms of=20 > the Katrina disaster your tone of correspondence, and speed of engagemen= t,=20 > has the unfortunate effect of reminding me about FEMA. >=20 > There are two bugs in the makefile and one other issue that causes proble= ms,=20 > so it is not surprising that some degree of traffic was generated.=20 >=20 > Seeing as the two bugs appear to be in your php Makefile and that other p= eople=20 > have helped me resolve them on the mailing lists, it is not surprising yo= u=20 > have received, not only the private email, but also the listmail which=20 > tracked how others responded, while you sat back quietly. I even wondered= =20 > whether you were a victim of Katrina and were therefore unable to functio= n=20 > for that reason. Please try to be professional and try not to let emotions get rule over you. Reminders of Katrina all the time are imho absolutely irrelevant and I considered them to be purpose-made. I do have respect=20 for all the work that is being done during these hard times. So should you have respect on other hand on work and time of others, who are willing to give their time and resources to solve your problem. Maybe he was not sitting back quietly, maybe he was with his dying father in hospital. You don't know. So do not make wrong assumptions. > When one is trying, against a background of some urgency, to solve bugs, = and=20 > there is no feed back from the first responder, then those who are=20 > resourceful turn to the appropriate mailing lists.=20 Appropriate mailing lists are meaned by you to be every possible lists th= at contain php and/or freebsd in their name? For example: your mail with query around www/phpbb makefile in freebsd-hackers@ - what the heck has freebsd-hackers@ to do with this mail? Shouldn't be freebsd-ports more appropriate? > If you feel like upset by the amount of traffic that you receive then you= =20 > might consider dropping some of the mail lits to which you subscribe, and= use=20 > the time you save to at least acknowledge requested bug reports and other= =20 > emails sent directly to you. In which case you would have had no reason t= o=20 > have complained about the traffic and I might have had some chance of get= ting=20 > a genuine and thoughtful response from you. This is absolutely arrogant of you to say that one should drop off from some maillists. This was not his problem but yours. You've spammed. And spammers usually are banned. If you are not able to solve it by yourself and if you are not able to respect others on these lists, then please do consider to outsource these task you are solving to other professional who will think before asking help from others. But as I am reading your mail from Thursday about Stupid working too late.. on freebsd-questions@.. I would give you one advice: get some rest and sleep. You are working under too much stress to be able to handle it and you need to rest obviously. That is my feeling while reading your emails. Please do not feel offended.=20 I apologize to everyone for being too off-topic here. good luck with your efforts, Martin --=20 martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * corwin@aeternal.net * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible=20 exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." 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