From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Aug 12 20:11:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695C8C07B2 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 466n6S26Ddz3yHJ for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1565640669; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=Y6nqAV1viV2smJB+DIeU77N46eBLLH9WHjTkH78sqgA=; b=a6UhjKOBJCiJMwaMhUbYncsuoYXjCzXJIsdxklifBw3xurv1vTXN7iWTE4AnwA1Zi+ RICquNjdbbwumtay4jyGLqQb4KVfRv5QSZb/spSUddcQnxD22Ci+QYRdAqN713WcVyEN X/B3l03+QgMrAJivs5+kvOOKXZqrmWGp9rIq102TuYuHo63jbAhRp/zmWT3Qcgisfqwl JwqcEcTu3MLz/ck5jVlx1zaIR5P6OFW5RUstiHiuVOiWZMV7kmxxN9NGNjaAuJOId+7L gYiix6Aqn9qCzV3hH1mxgBuQ7XKoknIXbrn7v0g/gS+WauptpExs4nLTfvGS50TAljPU bLog== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv7CKB83dS (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hxGeq-00010g-AW; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:08 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hxGeq-000257-8u; Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:11:08 +0200 From: hw To: Andrea Venturoli Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox or what? In-Reply-To: <07ac40e0-ee37-8965-a65a-d4edb1ef8bbb@netfence.it> (Andrea Venturoli's message of "Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:54:27 +0200") Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 21:50:22 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <871rxq2mf5.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <20190812173754.9bbd34f75885d616ae5d074a@gc-24.de> <07ac40e0-ee37-8965-a65a-d4edb1ef8bbb@netfence.it> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 466n6S26Ddz3yHJ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=a6UhjKOB; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lee@adminart.net has no SPF policy when checking 2a01:238:20a:202:5300::12) smtp.mailfrom=lee@adminart.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.938,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.77)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.37), asn: 6724(-0.46), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:11:13 -0000 Andrea Venturoli writes: > On 8/12/19 5:37 PM, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> does any of the Firefox versions that can be installed with pkg >> actually work? Firefix continues to freeze, crash, being unable to >> remember its settings, to not show up at all when starting it other >> than in the process list, and it usually can't be killed even with >> kill -9. > > I'm using firefox-esr on 11.2/amd64 and I don't have so many problems > (although it sometimes hangs and I've incurred in a couple of bugs). I tried both the "normal" version and the esr version, it made no difference. > What FreeBSD version are you using? 12 release > Did you read pkg message? Yes, and it's strange that so many things are disabled. For this particular application, it's probably an advantage. > Other details on your system? Well, FreeBSDs NFS implementation is broken, see my previous post ... >> what's the alternative? > > Now, that's a good point; so far my dislike of FireFox is constantly > growing, by I failed to find an alternative. > What I tried: > > _ Chromium: while I just don't like it in general (and I don't like > FireFox more and more mimicking it), it's the OmniBar which make me > avoid it at all costs; > > _ PaleMoon: more or less worked (altough some sites refuse it), but > it's now gone like SeaMonkey; > > _ Falkon: seems quite light; unfortunately it hangs much more > frequently than FireFox (I'll try again after the upgrade to 11.3). > > > > If someone comes up with other options I might be glad to try them :) Maybe Opera? Does it have a decent adblocker?