From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 01:47:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58B416A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kirk.baltic.net (kirk.baltic.net [193.189.247.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC3BA43FD7 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gni@gecko.de) Received: (qmail 7773 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0000 Received: from waldorf.gecko.de (HELO kermit.int.gecko.de) (193.189.247.200) by kirk.baltic.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2003 09:44:55 -0000 Received: from lorien.int.gecko.de (lorien [192.168.120.159]) by kermit.int.gecko.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id hAJ9lV711638; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from lorien.int.gecko.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorien.int.gecko.de (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAJ9llBF084457; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:47 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from munk@lorien.int.gecko.de) Received: (from munk@localhost) by lorien.int.gecko.de (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id hAJ9lkfk084456; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 10:47:46 +0100 From: Gunther Nikl To: Matthew Dillon Message-ID: <20031119094746.GA84418@lorien.int.gecko.de> References: <200311182307.hAIN7Wpm000717@dyson.jdyson.com> <20031118164905.R35009@pooker.samsco.home> <200311190226.hAJ2QLtT096067@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311190226.hAJ2QLtT096067@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:47:27 -0000 On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:26:21PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Our rationale for encouraging Gordon is as follows: > : > :1. 4.x upgrade path: As we approach 5-STABLE, a lot of users might want > : to upgrade from 4-STABLE. Historically in 4.x, the / partition has > : been very modest in size. One just simply cannot cram the bloat that > : has grown in 5.x into a 4.x partition scheme. Of course there is the > : venerable 'dump - clean install - restore' scheme, but we were looking > : for something a little more user-friendly. > > This argument would apply to very old 4.x users but not to anyone who > installed it as of March 2001. I bumped the nominal size of the > root partition to 128MB in 1.98.2.7 of sysinstall/label.c. Don't you think that people are able to change defaults if they think thats appropriate? > Prior to that Jordan had bumped the root partition size to 100MB > in 1.98.2.3 in March 2001. It was 50MB before then, which is too > small even for 4.x. Hm, then why do I have still room on my 50MB root partition? $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/vinum/root 49583 29040 16577 64% / Thats enough for installworld (if softupdates are turned off) Gunther