From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 17 16:14:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADA137B407 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james-list@ntlworld.com) Received: from eclipse.bloodflowers.org ([213.107.104.10]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010717231447.QEOS298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@eclipse.bloodflowers.org>; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:14:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:14:48 +0100 From: James Greenhalgh To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARRGH Netscape stinks! Message-Id: <20010718001448.0266ccff.james-list@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <200107172047.f6HKlFd73079@fac13.ds.psu.edu> References: <20010717212454.621f41f2.james-list@ntlworld.com> <200107172047.f6HKlFd73079@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.66 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personally, I find it FAR less obtrusive when an application stays within the bounds I gave it rather than spawning more and more windows. It's nice to be able to visit a site that requests 100% screen width and have the window within the opera X window resize only logically (becoming scrollable), and it's nice to have popups pop up in a small logical window too, rather than the browser arrogantly assuming it's the most important application and splattering itself all over my xterms ;-) (like Netscape and Mozilla) If I put opera in the top left of the screen using say, half the screen width, it's nice to know that it will NEVER touch the rest of my desktop, for any reason. Perhaps my original description wasn't clear? At any rate - it's all personal preference, you can *demand* whatever you like - but we're all stuck using whatever is closest. james On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:47:14 -0400 dochawk@psu.edu wrote: > > It might have been in the past - now it just has a small area of the toolbar > > showing adverts changing every now and again. I can live with that for a > > browser that runs javascript but only resizes the logical window rather than > > the one on my desktop, and opens popups within its own workspace. That's > > where I think it scores - multiple windows don't have to use multiple windows > > on your desktop, they can just be tab switched a bit like fvwm2-95 or that > > other OS I'm not going to mention. > > that's a *good* thing? I *demand* that windows be independent so that > I can put them where I want them, not in some big window that an > application hogs with the arrogant assumption that it's the most > important application, and kindly offers me a new desktop . . . > > > -- > Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign > dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail > These opinions will not be those of X and postings > Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- find great crazy-mad out-of-head experience from japan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message