From owner-freebsd-current Sun Mar 2 13:27: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F8D37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DEA44001 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h22LPIF09574; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:25:18 -0800 Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04427; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.adaptec.com (hollin [10.100.253.56]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13249; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:26:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3E6276E3.8010103@btc.adaptec.com> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:25:55 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADSUP: Driver mega-commit ahead. References: <9988.1046636053@critter.freebsd.dk> <20030302202015.GA546@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> In-Reply-To: <20030302202015.GA546@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 09:14:13PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >>I plan to commit >> http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/cdevsw.patch >>one of the first days of the week. >> >>Basically, it changes cdevsw initializations to use C99 sparse >>format, and thereby eliminates 859 lines of redundant defaultvalue >>initializations. > > > I thought HEAD was in a slush mode. des' sweep and this sweep seems > like the kind of changes we don't want at this time. Has this changed > or did re@ approve it (both cases)? > RE@ had in principal agreed with this work, since it will make 5-STABLE and 6-CURRENT more compatible. PHK should probably have noted this in the commit message. As for DES, it's been discussed quite a bit on arch@. We probably should have been more vocal about it, but once again it's good to have it in before 5-STABLE. 5.0 seems to have been the catalyst needed to get things moving again. It went much better than expected, and is giving people a benchmark for what still needs to be done. To that end, 5.1 will probably be quite different from 5.0. If the differences between 5.1 and 5.2 aren't as drastic and widespread, then that should be a good indication that we are ready for 5-STABLE. Please remember that re@ should be kept in the loop when you plan to make large changes. Things seem to be going pretty smoothly right now, so please don't let them get out of hand. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message