From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 17 09:43:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD4516A4CF for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from TRANG.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B994043D1F for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by TRANG.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2HHhciM094910; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i2HHhQDu094909; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:43:26 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Miguel Mendez Message-ID: <20040317174326.GA94853@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20040315134745.1eb201f4.manlix@demonized.net> <20040315125121.GC91150@abc.123.org> <20040315135725.3cc70f97.manlix@demonized.net> <20040317110938.GA86023@dragon.nuxi.com> <1079544327.63000.5.camel@scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1079544327.63000.5.camel@scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pkg-based base system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:43:56 -0000 On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 06:25:28PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 12:09, David O'Brien wrote: > > 3. Sounds like you want Linux with its RPM's, not BSD. We consciously > > don't wrap the base system in pkg_add tarballs. We generally LIKE the > > entire system being a single integrated blob. > > Yes and no. Perl was removed from base, wasn't it? Anyone needing perl > can install install it from ports (read: it's one of the first ports > most people install). Why can't the same be applied to bind and > sendmail? Bind and Sendmail are traditional BSD components. The 'B' in "BIND" is "Berkeley". Perl was never part of traditional BSD. Being present in traditional BSD is one of the justficiations for having something in the base system. If you don't want BSD, there are alternatives. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)