From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 31 23:58:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA3016A421; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A83813C46A; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from ap-h.matik.com.br (ap-h.matik.com.br [200.152.83.36]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l7VNvoMF092046; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:57:50 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:58:01 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <-3502020561049594852@unknownmsgid> <53082.192.168.1.2.1188586737.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> <20070831194244.GA4565@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20070831194244.GA4565@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200708312058.01966.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.90.3, clamav-milter version 0.90.3 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Subject: Re: Adding k9 and k10 to bsd.cpu.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:58:04 -0000 On Friday 31 August 2007 16:42:44 David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 08:58:57PM +0200, Bjrn Knig wrote: > > Bj=F6rn K=F6nig wrote: > > >> Intel's first Pentium 4 with SSE3 is called "prescott". We could use > > >> "venice" analogously to represent SSE3-capable Athlon64 CPUs. > > > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > No! NO! AMD core names does not mean the same as Intel ones. > > > Look folks, there is a clear way for this - the CPUID family. > > > > Pentium 4 processors before Prescott belong to family 15. Prescott and > > recent Pentium 4 processors still use 15 as family ID. If I understand > > you correctly then there should be no distinction between these > > processors because they have the same family ID, but there is one in > > bsd.cpu.mk because of SSE3. > > Not quite. CPUID Family is vendor-specific. The Family value for Intel > cannot be compared with the meaning of Family for AMD (or VIA). > > AMD bumps the CPUID Family value for each new major architecture > generation. I have no idea what's the meaning of "Family" by Intel. well ... people 'kind of familiarly' with reading manuals and specs are already havi= ng=20 difficulties here so imagin an average user (unkndefspec) who likes to=20 optimize his kernel (his cpu's kernel of course :) )=20 so as far as there are a cpu options for a freebsd kernel they should be=20 understandable so it might be worse thinking well before doing (=3Dless sup= port=20 =3D less questions =3D less problemas) =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br