From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 7 19:18:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17625 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU (GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU [128.2.209.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA17323; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:14:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from koopman@cmu.edu) Received: from KOOPMAN.PC.CS.CMU.EDU by GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU id ab08043; 7 Jan 98 20:12:49 EST From: Philip Koopman To: Steve Price Cc: questions@freebsd.org, julian@whistle.com, dg@root.com, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I send a large bug list? Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 01:10:12 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon University, ECE & ICES Reply-To: koopman@cmu.edu Message-ID: <34b721e5.11978318@globe.edrc.cmu.edu> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/16.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA17333 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:00:23 -0600 (CST), Steve Price wrote: >My name is Steve Price and I am the gnats-meister for FreeBSD; ie. I >get the pleasure maintaining the bug database. I would love to see >your list. As for a title (other than the above), this is a volunteer >project and only a select few people on the -core team have a title >and most of those are self-inflicted. :) Well, my distribution mechanism is obviously more set up for the commercial operating systems I am testing than for FreeBSD... but you already figured that out, I'm sure. Steve, if you send me e-mail promising to keep my data confidential then I'll be happy to e-mail you the bug list (it's a large file, so please express a preference for compression format and MIME vs. uuencode). You can also share it with others as long as we can get transitive closure on confidentiality promises. This isn't a legalistic NDA thing -- I just want to be sure that people who touch the data understand that it is not to be published, posted, or otherwise mass distributed without my consent. Once the data is converted into a regular bug report(s) then confidentiality goes away as long as it is not readily possible to reconstruct my experimental data from the bug database. Also, I'd like your physical mail address so I can send you a hard-copy letter confirming the arrangement as well as some summary data charts and conference papers that you will probably find interesting. Finally, if the bug report ends up being useful it would be nice to have a formal acknowledgement letter from Someone With An Impressive Title(!??) that I can show to my research sponsors to demonstrate "impact." Best regards, -- Phil (P.S., I'm also Cc'ing core@freebsd.org per D. Greenman's suggestion.) >To: koopman@cmu.edu >Subject: Re: Where do I send a large bug list? >From: David Greenman >Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 15:00:24 -0800 > >>What I'd like from this e-mail exchange is a name, title, and address of >>someone to whom I can send a U.S. Mail letter that describes my data and > > The best thing to do is work with the FreeBSD core team on this. The best >way to communicate with us is via core@freebsd.org. You can look up address >info for me with 'whois root.com'. > >-DG > >David Greenman >Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project Phil Koopman -- koopman@cmu.edu -- http://www.ece.cmu.edu/koopman