From owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 26 00:43:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C8F16A4DD; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5192A43D2F; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 00:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id E11D75309; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:43:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 6E56C5308; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:43:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 3FC8633CA7; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:43:21 +0100 (CET) To: Albert Cahalan References: <1080165171.2232.910.camel@cube> <20040325191745.GB71731@stack.nl> <1080247208.2232.1095.camel@cube> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:43:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1080247208.2232.1095.camel@cube> (Albert Cahalan's message of "25 Mar 2004 15:40:08 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: Jilles Tjoelker cc: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org cc: drosih@rpi.edu Subject: Re: PATCH for a more-POSIX `ps', and related adventures X-BeenThere: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Standards compliance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43:30 -0000 Albert Cahalan writes: > On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 14:17, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > > I think that has been a historical mistake in the POSIX standardization. > > tar/cpio were not standardized, instead a new utility "pax" was > > invented. This should have been done with ps too [...] > I would agree, except that nobody uses pax. :-) NetBSD and OpenBSD use pax exclusively; their tar and cpio are symlinks to /bin/pax. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no