From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 10:16:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5AB16A4CF for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.webmaster.com (mail1.webmaster.com [216.152.64.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7593543D31 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from however ([206.171.168.138]) (authenticated user joelkatz@webmaster.com) by webmaster.com (mail1.webmaster.com [216.152.64.168]) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.5.R) with ESMTP id 40-md50000001524.tmp for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:54:43 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Atte Peltomaki" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 10:16:19 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2096 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-Sender: joelkatz@webmaster.com X-Spam-Processed: mail1.webmaster.com, Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:54:43 -0700 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 206.171.168.138 X-Return-Path: davids@webmaster.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Future of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: davids@webmaster.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 17:16:32 -0000 > Admittadly the Matt issue was a PR debacle. We should have started up > front why we felt Matt should leave the project; instead, it trickled out > later. As I said, though, PR hasn't been a FreeBSD strong point, and we > certainly learned from that lesson. Part of the reason for it not being > handled well is that, to be honest, is that most people leave the > committer team on fairly good terms, so we don't have a whole lot of > experience with people leaving on less good terms. One thing I've learned from experience is that if you fault project leaders for being bad politicians, at best you'll get new leaders who are better politicians. You might want to think long and hard about whether this is good or bad. DS