From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jul 16 21:43:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AEABB63C for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 21:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from atl4mhob02.registeredsite.com (atl4mhob02.registeredsite.com [209.17.115.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.registeredsite.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BF4476AEA for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 21:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com (atl4qobmail02pod2.registeredsite.com [10.30.77.36]) by atl4mhob02.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x6GLhGx7002640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:43:16 -0400 Received: (qmail 30955 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jul 2019 21:43:16 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 99.253.177.25 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.3?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@99.253.177.25) by 0 with ESMTPA; 16 Jul 2019 21:43:16 -0000 Subject: Re: sbin/camcontrol/camcontrol.c error breaks buildworld To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <4248209b-cbd0-93df-b362-3887270e9c99@blastwave.org> <4d363c47-2cf0-add4-da6e-ea9f023b5d67@blastwave.org> <0c62bb43-8e61-512e-d2fd-1db3c4c036d6@blastwave.org> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: <8528ddc7-e8dd-3daf-d8a0-95c78d850fcc@blastwave.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:43:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6BF4476AEA X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.91 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.94)[0.943,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.netsolmail.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[40.115.17.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.980,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:209.17.112.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.10)[ip: (2.30), ipnet: 209.17.112.0/21(1.80), asn: 19871(1.44), country: US(-0.06)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 21:43:25 -0000 On 7/16/19 5:37 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> >>> The window would have been smaller. CI detected the breakage within 10 >>> minutes, but I was away from my email attending to some household things >>> for an hour more... >>> >> >> Ha! Sometimes I hear people even sleep ? >> >> I was just thinking the probability of landing in that one failed >> buildworld was real real small and somehow myself and a few others >> managed to do it. >> > > The changes survived a buildworld on amd64. I had no reason to even suspect > they might be troublesome on other archs. Since I have a busy day, I took a > shortcut. I don't build universe for every change, there's simply not time. > So it's more complicated than you're trying to paint. I am not trying to paint anything. I know there are a few of us with limited time and limited resources and we are all just doing what we can. In spite of this we have an open source UNIX with ZFS running. On more than just x86 little boxen. So we can expect bumps in the road : a typical bump in the road for ppc64 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239245 Yep .. changes happen and things break. Such is life. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional