From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 17 10:28:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4E637B408 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24241; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:28:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8HHS5400835; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:28:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:28:05 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jason Andresen Cc: Samuel Greear , Sheldon Hearn , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent changes to libdialog are weird Message-ID: <20010917192805.B347@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <95560.100 <01091707422403.00758@beware.dragonknight.net> <3BA60363.747A3582@mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BA60363.747A3582@mitre.org>; from jandrese@mitre.org on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:06:27AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 10:06:27AM -0400, Jason Andresen wrote: > Samuel Greear wrote: > > > > > The new changes suck, they've been annoying the hell out of me. > > The first time I installed, as a Windows user, I found that everything > > worked as I expected. At one point you just jumped into the menu, > > ran through it selecting things, and hit enter. It was cheeze, I liked > > it. It seems FUBAR now. > > You were definatly in the minority with this one. The first time I > ran the installer I kept hitting enter to select the items (I'd used > enter for everything else, so I didn't see why it would change), which > jumped me to some other screen with no obvious way to return. > > In fact this changing between spacebar and enter was the number one > complaint I heard from my friends who tried out FreeBSD (at least > during the install stage). It's just unnatural to people used to > mouse environments, it's like making people right click on checkboxes Agreed. FWIW I also have some problems convincing people that Quit or Cancel is really what they want .. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message