From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 14:27:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C97A16A4CE; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CF643D1F; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: from mail.pcnet.com (mail.pcnet.com [204.213.232.4]) by mail.pcnet.com (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i56LRutD012553; Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-Sender: eischen@pcnet5.pcnet.com To: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: <20040606211249.GC96607@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! KSE needs more attention X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:27:57 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 02:31:56PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > > As with Alpha, > > the fate of a platform rests on the people who are willing to work on > > it, not on whether it is in a particular list. > > Agreed, but it's the projects responsibility to take the tierness and > the intend to support multiple platforms serious and not to chicken out > at the first signs of complications or hurdles. We labeled sparc64 as > a tier 1 platform and we better deal with the consequences. Not to take away from the tremendous effort that jake had done for sparc64, but it should really take more than one or two supporting developers to obtain tier 1 support. People come and go, and tierness should take that into account. > As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 > without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it > for his own sake. We shouldn't keep an arch at tier 1 just to save face. Better to just lower it to tier 2 and be done with it. My $.02, FWIW.