From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 29 2:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38C237B626 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f4T9MPR83066 ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA04247 ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:23:02 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: Chris Moline , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010529112302.A3636@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010527082742.049003f0@localhost> <20010527172838.A11174@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528020324.0487b570@localhost> <20010528140153.A58103@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010528153532.0488ac10@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010528153532.0488ac10@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 03:38:14PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass said on May 28, 2001 at 15:38:14: > At 02:01 PM 5/28/2001, Chris Moline wrote: > > > >What reasons?? There are lots of commercial desktops that are crap. > > A commercial model is no guarantee of quality, but it may well be > a prerequisite. > > One of the most underrated desktops -- and one I would dearly love > to see ported to the BSDs -- is GeoWorks. Tiny, super-efficient, > object-oriented, and INCREDIBLY fast. If you want fast, I'd suggest xfce. I haven't used it in over a year, but when I last used it I was very impressed. The problem on the desktop is not a lack of choices, not even a lack of quality. Some people on the linux side argue that having KDE, GNOME and various other things is confusing for a third-party developer, and they could be right. Many people, on this list too, seem to agree KDE has what it takes. The problem is the applicationss, and it's not really a lack of applications either -- just a lack of the sort of applications people are used to in the windows world. And even here, KDE has covered a *huge* amount of ground in the last 18 months (KOffice, Konqueror, Kmail, etc) -- and they've now declared that all their infrastructure is in place, working, and reasonably problem-free, so they can concentrate on the applications side. I expect great things from them in the next 18 months. - R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message