From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 15 11:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27502 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27494 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@localhost.my.domain) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp7245.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.249.213]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12079; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18461; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:25:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Message-ID: <19980715122529.C18373@zappo> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:25:29 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting. References: <199807151655.MAA00679@rtfm.ziplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807151655.MAA00679@rtfm.ziplink.net>; from Mikhail Teterin on Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 12:55:00PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 15, 1998 at 12:55:00PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: [...] > lists are handled by the same server. This header will also contain only > "official" list names, for your convinience. For your convenience, all messages contain a Message-id: header. Now, with great confidence and shutzpah, I urge you, please, use it! > Then your filter is broken -- it tries to archive anything (or anything > coming from freebsd.org). Let's not discuss actual implementation, No, it's not broken. It only grabs things the mailing-lists sends me. > =This is still going to screw people who subscribe each -list to a > =different address. Eg. -hackers to freebsd-hackers@time.cdrom.com. > > This can, actually, be used to force hub to send copies -- for those > who want it and are willing to waste some (cheap) local storage. I don't own my own domain and can't create email addresses at will. And no, I already rely on too many domains (freebsd.org, hwcn.org, and my own local ISP) being available to get my mail -- adding another such as hotmail.com will make my mail even more unreliable. [Re: sorting on To: and Cc:] > =Finally, those headers are not altogether reliable. > > Well, I'm not sure what you mean by this. Look at the headers to this message. It was also sent to -chat, but you don't see that in the To: or Cc:. > It is a _problem_ only when it's rampant. But it is always an anoyance. > And resource-consuming. Not just hub's CPU, but the Internet bandwidth, > people's disks, people's modems, and people's time too. I can think of many things that are annoyances, or potential annoyances... [moved] > No To:-header? So, majordomo removed it? Can you verify? I did > not put anything into CC figuring you are subscribed to -chat. > (I'm not, btw -- your CC are apreciated). And this is one of them: people who have to (repeately) ask "Please Cc: me your answer." With proper -list policy such requests are not necessary. [And yes, majordomo removed it...it was only a temporary snafu on jmb's part, though...otoh, it was well-timed] -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message