From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 22:08:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A951A1065672 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stuartb@4gh.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642558FC08 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA) with ESMTP id BKI33127; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:40:08 -0500 X-Auth-ID: stuartb.4gh@starpower.net Received: from unknown (HELO freeman.4gh.net) ([208.58.4.75]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 16:40:08 -0500 Received: by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B71EF130DE4; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freeman.4gh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B103D130D36 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Barkley To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20111114204948.GM63757@droso.net> Message-ID: References: <20111112153605.e1ccb1fb54c00d8e233c411e@kleppnett.no> <4EBE9B47.8030301@gmail.com> <20111114204948.GM63757@droso.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: pkg_add -r does not find packages FreeBSD 9.0 rc1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:08:59 -0000 On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 at 15:49 -0000, Erwin Lansing wrote: > This is an unfortunate sideeffect of our current release process for > major version releases where it's hard to synchronize the change > needed to pkg_add and the package sets on the mirrors. This might be another sign of too frequent major releases. Like some others I would prefer to see fewer major version number changes. A longer lived stable series is preferable (like 3.X and 4.X). Since FreeBSD in not the OS I use most often (unfortunately, since I do prefer BSD), I tend to lag on my personal installations. I'm still at 8.1 and would probably go to 8.3 sometime soon if it became available. I'm not ready for the breakage 9.X might entail for me. Yes, these are just numbers and might not have actual significance. I will probably also be happy to go with 9.0 when released. Common use (and declared FreeBSD use) is that changes with breakage imply the major version number changes and changes without major breakage change the minor version number. I have been the frustrated programmer who is eager to get my code out running on more systems. I have also been the frustrated user waiting for some needed new functionality only in a development/test environment. Trading off the various needs will never satisfy anyone. Note: I'm far more frustrated seeing Firefox hit 8.0 and am glad that Firefox 3.6 is still in ports (even if not the default version). Stuart -- I've never been lost; I was once bewildered for three days, but never lost! -- Daniel Boone