From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 4 8:40:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4F337B408 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680043E42 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 23600 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2002 16:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2002 16:40:37 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA4GeWn5045142; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:40:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15657FF0-F011-11D6-947F-000393A335A2@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:40:33 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Larry Sica Subject: Re: Why Use a Daemon as a Symbol since it alienates many? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Lefteris Tsintjelis , "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Nov-2002 Larry Sica wrote: > > On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 10:54 AM, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg > wrote: > >> Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: >>> I think you are missing the whole point here. Let me make it a little >>> more clear to you. Suppose we ask this question to two different types >>> of people "Hey, what do you think about Beastie? What does it remind >>> you >>> of?" and show them Beastie. First group is FreeBSD users or users that >>> know this litle cute, and as you claim "daemon", second group is the >>> the >>> wide majority of people that know nothing about PCs and hardly even >>> use >>> Windblows. I wonder what do u think each group will respond to this >>> question? >>> Regards, >>> Lefteris >> >> *snip* >> >> I just tested this on a very small (3 people) group that has no idea >> what FreeBSD is, and hardly knows how to operate any kind of computer >> other then to check their hotmail account. >> 2 of them were girls, and both found the daemon cute. One of them >> guessed it was the mascot for a sportsteam of some kind and the other >> was pretty sure she had seen that mascot on TV, in some kind of >> japanese cartoon. The third, a guy, guessed it was from a Counter >> Strike or Quake clan or similar, but was in no way offended by it. >> When I revealed what it actually was, one of the girls asked why a >> computer OS used a demon as a logo. I explained that it was not a >> demon but a daemon, but she didnt really seem to care. To her, it was >> a demon, and if a OS wanted to have a demon as mascot it was not her >> problem. None of them seemed offended or scared by the fact that >> FreeBSD uses a daemon. >> > > As an aside, i worked for a "Christian" company at one point and we > used FreeBSD. No one there was offended by Beastie. It never even > came up. As another aside I'm a devout Christian and a core team member who grew up in a real "hick" place in southwest Virginia in the U.S. Do the math. :) Granted, I don't really go out of my way to wear my FreeBSD T-shirt's on Wednesday nights, but I don't completely not go out of my way either. I do get a few jokes about it sometimes, but people base their perceptions on me about what they know of my character, not the mascot of the OS I work on. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message