From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jul 8 3: 1:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B179437B405 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 03:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16300; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:01:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f68A1Zm26238; Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:01:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 12:01:35 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <20010708120135.B26131@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B47DA2F.D417E048@softweyr.com> <018601c10767$5d70e430$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <018601c10767$5d70e430$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 12:35:06AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 12:35:06AM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > Richard Hodges wrote: > > > > > > Sure, no argument there. Taking Wes' suggestion, maybe there is an > > > opportunity in the "official" distribution distinction. How about a > > > "certificate of authenticity" which costs the vendors $1 or $2 (or > > > whatever), and shows the customer that their choice of vendors helped > > > FreeBSD financially. Incidentally, this certificate might also be a > > > selling point for those twisted individuals that just don't understand > > > free software :-) > > > > Now that's an idea, but it raises problems with shipping the > "certificates" > > across national borders, causing import duties, etc. Maybe if we made > > the certificates in PostScript or even fig files. ;^) > > I'm not sure how much of a difference the "certificate" would make, as far > as import duties goes. I live in Canada (Toronto, Ontario), and accoriding > to new rules that came into effect on Jan 1/2001, my CDs (which are > considered "computer programs, electronic media") are now subject to 5% > duty, 7% GST, 8% provincial tax, plus a $5.00 handling charge by Canada > Post. (So much for NAFTA!) So on a USD$30 set of CDs (CAD$45), that works > out to be about $15 in taxes and fees due to the classification. I don't > see how a "certificate" would change that for the worse. (Well, unless the > discs started being shipped via UPS. Then I'd get dinged for a $20 handing > fee instead of $5.) > > For those in Europe or Australia, I'm not sure what the import rules are, > but I'm sure they already have to pay some sort of import duties, and I > don't see how the inclusion of a certificate would change that for the > worse. Don't start.. I've paid import duties & taxes multiple times for shipments of give-away CDs that jkh/WC sent over to our Dutch FreeBSD User Group (NLFUG). There also seems to be a special European import duty on any CDs coming in from outside the EC. If you have ever seen the outrageous prices on (music) CDs here you know why.. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message