From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 18:14:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B85106566B for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslanbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0443E8FC22 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslanbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so5362160wfa.7 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:14:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1hZd4UC5ZEYlwdH273XV3/sA3tweWVcXjMkbUytj/p8=; b=ckSd7Wmd4PY+fRdz8B4J/uvg9W6sCYIcdwoGAZz/SYAE+AWYYFNEMbUUCyrJ+Snd1pN6aBv18c5NvPwTg27BBKWLdQ1ccTGboj4a0KPZxajZY6jpNnMzS1Pw2CIzPQhy6HbaEQ4FigzRD9/TSDDcQDRCaoR9Svtk4nRNMV0672U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=wQx29YIWhpSItqrzYFS+UW97eSPwopz2VAf8tg+05RDR6IHWCw15LgBEI0OvzdcMYqYQ3Yk/nzBsQFXG+aro3GwCWwnPDejRZGOcMTL0cw8/b2gauB6joXv5Cf+GjNuRQ9IlkXOu/7L7AZVtNTEZLHSKQycB1UXtnVaHDk3EF3w= Received: by 10.142.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr454798wfg.177.1205776152435; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.19.13 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <319cceca0803171049hfea3248qaa3d5ec66a84f7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:49:12 +0000 From: Maslan To: "Kip Macy" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47DBC800.8030601@dir.bg> <160451205650165@webmail50.yandex.ru> <20080316122108.S44049@fledge.watson.org> Cc: jgordeev@dir.bg, Adrian Chadd , "Andrey V. Elsukov" , Robert Watson , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vkernel & GSoC, some questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:14:59 -0000 Hi all, Aren't we working on a FreeBSD/Xen port ??? I think we don't need a Linux like KVM or DragonFly's vkernel, if we could run FreeBSD in dom0. Thank a lot On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Kip Macy wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > On 16/03/2008, Robert Watson wrote: > > > > > Another avenue to consider is the Linux KVM virtualization technology, which > > > is seeing a high level of interest in the Linux community and sounds > > > increasingly mature and well-exercised. It would also offer interesting > > > migration benefits for Linux users wanting to try FreeBSD, allowing them to > > > trivially create new FreeBSD installs under their existing Linux install. We > > > had an SoC project last year but I'm not sure what the outcome was; it would > > > be useful to give Fabio a ping and see how things are going. Obviously, > > > anyone doing this project would need to manage the license issues involved > > > carefully. > > > > Wasn't part of the original KVM idea to support a "hypervisor" > > interface to a parent, sort of Xen-like, providing interrupt, VM and > > inter-VM "IPC" hooks? > > > > I remember seeing this stuff a while back but for some reason all I > > read about KVM - outside of what Redhat are doing with it and Xen now > > - focuses on hardware virtualisation. > > > > A BSD-licenced KVM hypervisor + FreeBSD kernel might be an interesting > > project. I'm pretty sure Rusty wrote a very very lightweight KVM > > hypervisor as a demonstration which may serve as a starting point for > > things. > > > Nope. It is called lguest, is GPL, IBM has the rights to it and has no > interest in changing the license. > > Using KVM for architectural ideas while starting from a fresh codebase > is really the only way to go if you are concerned with licensing. > > -Kip > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- System Programmer -- I'm Searching For Perfection, So Even If U Need Portability U've To Use Assembly ;-) -- http://libosdk.berlios.de