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Date:      Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:43:15 -0600
From:      David Leimbach <leimy2k@mac.com>
To:        Christopher Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IP over IEEE1394?
Message-ID:  <9DE4D732-4F6C-11D7-885F-0003937E39E0@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <1046875304.5667.31.camel@cfowler.outpostsentinel.com>

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I hadn't thought of this.... Interesting :)

Dave
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:41 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote:

> You can run IP via PPP.  PPPD is used all the time for VPN.  I've got 2
> networks that are combined via PPPD over a tunnel because they are both
> on private networks and have only 1 public IP.
>
> However, The overhead could get you. I'm not sure you want to go down
> the writer of creating another interface.  Maybe you could use the SLIP
> interface and capture that IP stuff and send across.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:32, David Leimbach wrote:
>> True... I guess I didn't state my case clearly enough that I think IP
>> over firewire
>> is in itself a good thing for clusters.
>>
>> ppp connections with it are fine too but not very useful for my line  
>> of
>> work
>> which is parallel computing middleware :)
>>
>> Dave
>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:30 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote:
>>
>>> The beauty of ppp is that you have support in the kernel to do it.
>>> Else, you are stuck to writing some type of interface driver for the
>>> kernel.  In the short term, this may not be a workable solution.
>>>
>>> On a side note,
>>>
>>> I read an article on /. about using firewire + MinDV for backup.  I
>>> guess I can get some use out of my camera after all.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 09:21, David Leimbach wrote:
>>>> Yeah... point to point connections are interesting and powerful but  
>>>> IP
>>>> would
>>>> be better if we could get it.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I knew more about how to implement it. :)
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This may not be a workable solution, but if you can get 2 programs  
>>>>> to
>>>>> send data across the firewire to one another, you could use pppd
>>>>> through
>>>>> that tunnel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:25, David Leimbach wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire  
>>>>>> :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac OS X and Windows XP both have IP over firewire either working  
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> in the works and somewhat usable.  The only one I can claim any
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with is Mac OS X.  It's somewhat flaky though and you get  
>>>>>> unreliable
>>>>>> spikes
>>>>>> in some basic performance tests I have done with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be a really interesting value added feature for FreeBSD  
>>>>>> 5.x
>>>>>> and could potentially open FBSD up even more to the "cluster"  
>>>>>> market
>>>>>> which is somewhere its not as proliferated as linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the advent of firewire2  on the horizon it may be even more
>>>>>> impressive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe there is even an Oracle product for linux which can
>>>>>> cluster
>>>>>> databases
>>>>>> over firewire now.  [I don't know if its IP though]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Rossam Souza Silva  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, there is some plan to port NetBSD's implementation of IP over
>>>>>>> Firewire? I know, we have "Ethernet over Firewire", but like the
>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>> one, isn't a standard...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just curious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- 
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>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>  \\\'',) ^  to be very selective about who it decides to make
>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>> with."
>>>>>>>    \/  \(
>>>>>>>    .\._/_)  Rossam Souza Silva (rss@cin.ufpe.br)
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