Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:12:46 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> To: jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: concerns about install freebsd Message-ID: <27EE1304-D86D-428D-8ED0-3606DA8A97BB@riseup.net>
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--Apple-Mail-EAD25F59-B07A-4C4B-9523-0292DFD52E28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On 28. Sep 2022, at 20:08, jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com> wrote: > Can I install linux and freebsd in the same machine (I think it's intel x= 86 architecture)? If so, can I switch it easily, just use the shortcut key t= hen switch to another system. Hi, yes, you can install both on the same machine. No, you can not switch betwee= n both by a shortcut. You need to reboot, to start the other operating syste= m. While it=E2=80=98s possible to run one operating system as guest inside of t= he another operating system, this approach has got several disadvantages. Don=E2=80=98t believe all the unqualifiziert nonsense claimed about Linux. L= inux is stable. All operating systems have got pitfalls. Android has not muc= h in common with Linux and iOS/iPad OS have not much in common with FreeBSD.= What operating system to use depends much on the domain. One domain that is important to me is real-time audio. The infrastructure re= lated to audio and real-time of iOS/iPad OS as well as Linux is quite good, w= hile FreeBSD is not that good in this domain. Android is completely inapprop= riate for real-time audio. IOW it even doesn=E2=80=98t matter much, if an operating system is based on a= nother operating system, since they can differ a lot. Actually I=E2=80=98m using iOS/iPad OS as well as Linux most of the times an= d rarely FreeBSD or Windows, but I never used Android for the mentioned reas= ons. I run Windows only as a guest inside of another operating system. In so= me cases this approach has got more advantages, than disadvantages. Summarized, what operating system to use and if it makes sense to run it as a= guest inside of another operating system depends on several factors. What a= re your domains? If a dual- or multi-boot makes sense depends, too. Only one claim is nearly universal, if a user is unsatisfied by one operatin= g system, it usually doesn=E2=80=98t solve anything to migrate to another o= perating system, if the migration is based on promise of salvation. A though= tless migration is much likely just a jump out of the frying pan into the fi= re. If you want to test operating systems, a starting point to do this is using p= ersistent live media. For example, copy several Linux live ISO to a Ventoy U= SB-stick and make them persistent and get NomadBSD. Testing an operating sys= tem as guest in a virtual machine suffers from the limits of the virtualizat= ion, especially when using VirtualBox, let alone that anything hardware rela= ted depends on the host=E2=80=98s drivers, hence you can=E2=80=98t experienc= e hardware support of the guest. https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html https://nomadbsd.org/ Regards, Ralf= --Apple-Mail-EAD25F59-B07A-4C4B-9523-0292DFD52E28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D= utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D= "ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 28. Sep 2022, a= t 20:08, jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com> wrote:<br></blockquote>= </div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"> Can I install linux a= nd freebsd in the same machine (I think it's intel x86 architecture)? If so,= can I switch it easily, just use the shortcut key then switch to another sy= stem.</div></blockquote><br><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>yes, you can i= nstall both on the same machine. No, you can not switch between both by a sh= ortcut. You need to reboot, to start the other operating system.</div><div><= br></div><div>While it=E2=80=98s possible to run one operating system as gue= st inside of the another operating system, this approach has got several dis= advantages.</div><div><br></div><div>Don=E2=80=98t believe all the unqualifi= ziert nonsense claimed about Linux. Linux is stable. All operating systems h= ave got pitfalls. Android has not much in common with Linux and iOS/iPad OS h= ave not much in common with FreeBSD.</div><div><br></div><div>What operating= system to use depends much on the domain.</div><div><br></div><div>One doma= in that is important to me is real-time audio. The infrastructure related to= audio and real-time of iOS/iPad OS as well as Linux is quite good, while Fre= eBSD is not that good in this domain. Android is completely inappropriate fo= r real-time audio.</div><div><br></div><div>IOW it even doesn=E2=80=98t matt= er much, if an operating system is based on another operating system, since t= hey can differ a lot.</div><div><br></div><div>Actually I=E2=80=98m using iO= S/iPad OS as well as Linux most of the times and rarely FreeBSD or Windows, b= ut I never used Android for the mentioned reasons. I run Windows only as a g= uest inside of another operating system. In some cases this approach has got= more advantages, than disadvantages.</div><div><br></div><div>Summarized, w= hat operating system to use and if it makes sense to run it as a guest insid= e of another operating system depends on several factors. What are your doma= ins?</div><div><br></div><div>If a dual- or multi-boot makes sense depends, t= oo.</div><div><br></div><div>Only one claim is nearly universal, if a user i= s unsatisfied by one operating system, it usually doesn=E2=80=98t solve anyt= hing to migrate to another operating system, if the migration is based= on promise of salvation. A thoughtless migration is much likely just a jump= out of the frying pan into the fire.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want t= o test operating systems, a starting point to do this is using persistent li= ve media. For example, copy several Linux live ISO to a Ventoy USB-stick and= make them persistent and get NomadBSD. Testing an operating system as guest= in a virtual machine suffers from the limits of the virtualization, especia= lly when using VirtualBox, let alone that anything hardware related depends o= n the host=E2=80=98s drivers, hence you can=E2=80=98t experience hardware su= pport of the guest.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.ventoy.n= et/en/index.html">https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html</a></div><div><a href= =3D"https://nomadbsd.org/">https://nomadbsd.org/</a></div><div><br></div><di= v>Regards,</div><div>Ralf</div></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail-EAD25F59-B07A-4C4B-9523-0292DFD52E28--
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