From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 16:59:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28100 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:59:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28090 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:59:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA25867 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:28:49 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA29683; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:28:51 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228112851.Y12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:28:51 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD current users Subject: Thanks, Core Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I'll try to summarize what I understand of the latest changes in -CURRENT: 1. LKMs are gone. 2. This was decided by the core team. 3. Nobody else was informed. 4. In my case, my Vinum product just got dumped from the repository. The first thing I heard was a laconic comment from Søren saying ``Sorry for the mess, but it was overdue...'', followed by a commit message showing them all gone. Well, thanks a lot. Suddenly, without any warning (but still overdue...), my project is gone, and I have an unknown amount of work to get back on track. The least I would have expected would be a bit of advance warning. Instead, what do I get? On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 18:20:00 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > The cleanups have been discussed in -core. > > -committers is a notorious unproductive and flame-prone place to > discuss code removal. Well, this is certainly an unproductive and flame-prone way to perform code removal. I'd consider it a slap in the eye for all non-core committers. I'd be interested in knowing how you would perform it if you were deliberately trying to annoy us. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message