From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 10 09:50:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E6D106564A for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9435E8FC23 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JjtQC-0007aq-JL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:20 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:20 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:20 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:50:07 +0200 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <20080409115534.GA86945@rebelion.Sisis.de> <47FCDCC5.4040605@FreeBSD.org> <47FDDD64.6030203@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1F2AF8F8C61D5B207C92DEBB" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <47FDDD64.6030203@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: 7.0R && freemind 0.8.1 crashes randomly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:50:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1F2AF8F8C61D5B207C92DEBB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris Kennaway wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> What do you expect is wrong with the 6.x jdk running under >>> compatibility? >> >> I don't expect it, I'm talking from personal experience (confirmed by >> occasional reports on mailing lists). >=20 > Fine, so in your personal experience, what is the problem? "Just like > with ZFS", bug reports that do not contain sufficient details are usele= ss. >=20 > It's sort of tiresome to keep receiving these vague complaints wrapped > up in insinuations from someone with sufficient development experience > to do better. You're right, sorry about that. The thing is that I sometimes get carried away and try to use new shiny things in production, where I can't spend downtime debugging problems that, in theory, shouldn't exist. That's why my reports are sometimes (though not always - I've sent a lot of tracebacks and offered many kernel core dumps for ZFS) are vague. I find that many of the problems I encountered are difficult to reproduce in controlled environment. Yes, ZFS was always tagged experimental, and strictly speaking I really shouldn't use java on 7.0 at all since there are no Sun-blessed binaries. Though I think that as an early adopter my reports at least showed future users what *not* to do :) --------------enig1F2AF8F8C61D5B207C92DEBB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH/eLPldnAQVacBcgRAk2nAKChz/Nk1qMr2BZ7cwmuUjaAA1+OMQCfUY7T im+Oedb5YykG2SnAOD4vmU0= =pqJ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1F2AF8F8C61D5B207C92DEBB--